Posted on 01/22/2008 1:19:28 PM PST by VegasBaby
Governor Mitt Romney On Fred Thompson Withdrawing His Candidacy
Whereas all Hillary has ever run is her mouth.
Now tell me. How does a conservative get elected in Mass? If they like a Kennedy, why would they elect a conservative?
I look at the man - but I look at their history also.
So, any leader of such a state or region, will conform to the locale. That conforming will corrupt his views and he will bring that acceptance of liberal think with him to the White House. A fear I also have of Rudy.
Now, I do not like McCain for a whole other set of reasons and there is no way I will vote for a McCain.
I look at the man - but I will look at the whole picture.
“Romney/Bush...”
You’re kidding, right? Bush? NFW!
Mitt Romney is a class act.
I’m a Fredhead who’s now supporting Romney by default. He may not get any money from me but he’ll get my vote and to any Huckabee people out there who may be reading this I’d go for McCain before your guy....
My 3rd choice, Ron Paul.
Yes, they are in a relative sense.
The numbers in New York are huge. Have you been to New York City in the last 5 years? Same thing in Massachuetts. Huge numbers of illegals in the Boston area.
I have been to both extensively in the last year. And it is modest so far, compared to not just California...but Minnesota. So no. They don't have a clue in those Eastern states what's coming still.
I was living there at the time, so I know. The state was undergoing a huge fiscal crisis and there was a hankering for a fiscal conservative. Taxes were already so high that people couldn't stomach more and it made spending cuts popular, at least temporarily. Romney appealed to that senitment.
Also, the average red-blooded Massachusetts Yankee doesn't like illegal aliens any more than your average South Carolinan, and Romney's vetoes of drivers liscences for illegals, as well as his vetoing of in-state tuition at state colleges was also highly popular.
Incidentally, Romney's stance against gay marriage, and his fight for a amendment codifying marriage as between a man and a woman, was also popular with the typical rank-and-file voter in the state.
I look at the man - but I look at their history also.
Fine. Judge him by his record. It's not a perfect consistent conservative record's down the line, but when compared to realistic benchmardks (like that of other governors, even in states more conservative states like Virginia), it's pretty darn good.
So, any leader of such a state or region, will conform to the locale.
Yes, but the locale is not monolithic. There are conservatives in the state as well as socialist hippie nutjobs. The right candidate, in the right circumstances, can get a majority center-right coalition to vote for him in that state.
Seriously, have you ever even been to New England? You seem to think that everyone in Massachusetts thinks like a Harvard English professor. You're seriously mistaken.
There is a relatively large constituancy of libertarian types who want lower taxes. The vast majority of people outside Boston and the suburbs are to the right of center on social issues. Gay marriage is highly unpopular there and would never hold up if put to a vote.
You also have to remember that there is a huge disconnect between the elites and the rank and file. One reason why Massachusetts has voted as liberal as it has in many elections is that the elite there is extremely leftist.
However, your average Massachusetts Joe Yankee isn't that way. Those Joes will break with the elites when the right candidate comes along. That's why Reagan was able to carry the state.
Your disdain for a whole population of people, whom you have never met and never interacted with, and painting them all with a broad brush, doesn't say anything good about your character.
I’ve danced to that tune in years past. No more.
That's exactly where I am. He seems to have the most potential of those that remain. I will especially check out Romney's "conversion" on abortion.
I know enough about McCain and Huck to not like them. RoPaul is nuts. And Rudy is the only one I would absolutely not vote for, since he is pro-abort. Fortunately, he's tanking, so that may be a moot point. The nom will be either Mitt or McCain.
If Mitt taps Fred for VP, that will be an encouraging sign.
Which is all just your opinion.
And my opinion is that there is no room under the big Republican tent for conservatives anymore.
I may well vote for whoever the GOP nominee is, except for Huckabee, who would be bad for the party, bad for America, and bad for Christianity.
Ah, but he was raised in Midland, Texas - West Texas.
And he is pure Texan. He hates the Washington social circuit and at first opportunity returns to his ranch. And you might note that that ranch is not exceedingly lavish.
I have a prejudice against the banality and silliness of pompous elitism. I don’t want to be a part of it or waste time trying to enjoy being around them. I don’t.
Hard to explain but I find something far better in spending time learning of the awesome lives led by some simple people of faith and I’ve found this quiet dignity in many of the West Texas people. These great people are everywhere, they have survived hardships and have learned what is of value in life, but the elitists never see them as they are not consumed with the social circuit.
You'll regret that move the moment on Election Night when the networks switch to Hope, Arkansas for the Election Night victory celebration for Hillary...with Babs and Bill waxing on about how great the world will be now that a Democrat is in charge. The mere thought is enough to make me vomit.
Nope. George H.W. Bush was born in Milton, MA and raised in Greenwich, CT, and studied at Yale. You can't get more Yankee than that.
He didn't move to Texas until he graduated college.
Save it. Listening to that logic got us where we are today. No more.
Romney is no elitist, and neither are most Yankees.
Hard to explain but I find something far better in spending time learning of the awesome lives led by some simple people of faith and I’ve found this quiet dignity in many of the West Texas people
You'll find the same thing in many working-class neighborhoods in Brooklyn and Queens, the small towns of rural Massachusetts, as well as its fishing villages like Glouchester or Essex.
You'll have to convince the people of Midland, Texas, who are restoring his childhood home.
I'm talking George H.W. Bush. A.K.A. Bush 41. A.K.A George Bush Sr.
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