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OFFICIAL SOUTH CAROLINA PRIMARY THREAD

Posted on 01/19/2008 6:06:01 AM PST by vikingd00d

Today is the day.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2008; fred; frednumberone; fredthompson; gofredgo; gop; nothuckabubba; notmccain; notmitt; primary; sc2008; southcarolina; thompson
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To: Antoninus

Man you’re taking swipes at everyone now? Relax, just stating my opinion.


2,741 posted on 01/19/2008 7:38:24 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: STARWISE

True.

President Bush has his flaws...mostly on immigration, but he will look extremely good to us after this mess is over.

Loved when he flew to Iraq for Thanksgiving, when he was on the ship, when he stood at Ground Zero, when he was hauling wood on his property, how he handled 9/11, how he chose the correct judges in the end. We forget those things and go after him on issues he cannot fight without a Congress to back him up.

It is not all on President Bush’s shoulders, it is on those we’ve elected to Congress who either turned on us or were so immoral that the MSM could use them as the poster boys of the Republican Party. Remember the page scandal?


2,742 posted on 01/19/2008 7:38:33 PM PST by madison10
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To: TheLion
McCain wants the job more than life itself!!!!!!!!

True that. And he would be a sure loser in the general if he got the nomination. This is a man who would pull down the Party and the country to satisfy his grudge vs. GWB.

2,743 posted on 01/19/2008 7:38:33 PM PST by La Enchiladita (Psalm 27)
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To: Owen
Better to lay offense. With Romney, a grab can be made for Michigan’s Electoral Votes. And California’s.

He won't win California. There's no way. And Michigan's--which won't be easy to win--won't be enough to offset the losses he's going to sustain in the South.

Plus, the Dems have so much material on Flip that's already on YouTube that will utterly sink him with voters who are supposed to be his base, that his loss has the potential to be of historic magnitude.
2,744 posted on 01/19/2008 7:38:52 PM PST by Antoninus ("Make all the promises you have to." --Mitt Romney)
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To: TheLion
It is down to Romney and McCain, who do you want?

Let me play too! None of the above.

2,745 posted on 01/19/2008 7:39:10 PM PST by Ingtar (Romney didn't support President Bush's tax cuts in 2003, earning praise from Barney Frank)
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To: ellery

Well this is for certain — a republican who does NOT win the nomination is CERTAIN to NOT win the general election.

Nobody is stopping any candidate from winning, except that candidate and his ability to convince voters to vote for them.


2,746 posted on 01/19/2008 7:39:32 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Theophilus

My Pastor marches against abortion. He HATES it!!! BUT, He does not vote SOLELY on that issue.


2,747 posted on 01/19/2008 7:39:39 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (Anyone but Hitlery)
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To: Antoninus
How many state wide Democrat winner of Southern states have a 45% or higher negative approval rate like Hillary does at the START of the campaign? How many openly campaign as out and out political Leftists like Hillary does?

Your creating a straw-man argument here that is not based on any hard data.

2,748 posted on 01/19/2008 7:39:49 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Instead of "Swift Boaters", 2008 Democrats have "Short Bussers"-Freeper Sax)
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To: TornadoAlley3

< < I do not want a RINO, I do not want to have to vote for a RINO but Hillary is worse, so what RINO can beat Hillary if Fred drops out? > >

None of them. Republican in name only = liberal in reality. No one can “out left” Hillary. If you want to defeat her, you must vote for a conservative. There is only one conservative in the race.

Instead of giving up hope by believing the MSM proaganda, donate and vote for the tall man who is the consistent conservative, FRed Thompson.


2,749 posted on 01/19/2008 7:39:58 PM PST by womanvet (There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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To: freedom4me

“I hope Fred will stay in. without him, we have no real conservative in the race.”

I agree. I’m sticking with Fred. We need him there to be the face of real conservatism, since there is no alternative. I hope he continues on to Florida.


2,750 posted on 01/19/2008 7:39:58 PM PST by chickpundit (This chick's for Fred!)
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To: apillar
I have nightmares of a replay of the 1996 debates where Hillary stands over Mccain as he cowers in his chair like some codger in the old folks home from the mean nurse, just like Dole did in 96.

Gripping vision. I think you nailed it.

2,751 posted on 01/19/2008 7:40:29 PM PST by TADSLOS (Border Security is a foundation stone of National Security)
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To: TheLion
It is down to Romney and McCain, who do you want?

I'd take McCain in a serious nose-holder. At least he's honest when he disagrees with conservatives.

Romney will stab us in the back while pretending to be our friend the entire time and make the GOP even more liberal on an institutional level--just like he did in Massachusetts.
2,752 posted on 01/19/2008 7:40:51 PM PST by Antoninus ("Make all the promises you have to." --Mitt Romney)
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To: LdSentinal

Independents and democrats voted in the republican primary in 2000 — the democratic contest was essentially over by then.

McCain took 43% of that vote, and will only take 33% now.


2,753 posted on 01/19/2008 7:40:55 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: restornu

You don’t have a clue what you are talking about. In more ways than one.


2,754 posted on 01/19/2008 7:40:59 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: Antoninus

What do you mean by “elite”?


2,755 posted on 01/19/2008 7:41:15 PM PST by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar, etc and we can join OPEC!!! || Fred - "the Best Dick Cheney ever")
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To: Theophilus

My Pastor marches against abortion. He HATES it!!! BUT, He does not vote SOLELY on that issue.


2,756 posted on 01/19/2008 7:41:26 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (Anyone but Hitlery)
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To: chickpundit

He’ll be gone this week.


2,757 posted on 01/19/2008 7:41:26 PM PST by Owen
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To: Swordfished

Not at all. I have no stars in my eyes for flashy conservative converts, if that’s what you mean. But there’s no fantasy involved. Slick Willard’s a fake.


2,758 posted on 01/19/2008 7:41:31 PM PST by Petronski ("Make all the promises you have to." --Slick Willard, 9 Jan 08)
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To: Petronski
In 1964, George Romney stood up and walked out of the 1964 GOP convention in protest of the Goldwater/Reagan conservatism of the day.

In truth, Romney desserted the convention because of their refusal to adopt a strong civil rights platform. That decision to abandon the civil rights principles that had been the backbone of the GOP for over a century would permanently alienate the African-American vote away from the GOP.

George Romney was right. Sadly, Barry Goldwater was wrong.

2,759 posted on 01/19/2008 7:41:59 PM PST by Hoodat (The whole point of the Conservative Movement is to gain converts, not demonize them.)
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To: restornu

I already have...you’re the one with the reading comprehension problem.


2,760 posted on 01/19/2008 7:42:02 PM PST by tsmith130
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