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John McCain Wins NH Republican Primary

Posted on 01/08/2008 5:12:41 PM PST by jern

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 2008; canyousaypresobama; deathofthegop; hillarywins; jointhewhigs; mccain; mcclaim; nh2008; rino; winner
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To: Reagan Man
Oh, I am SOOOOOO terrified. You have "exposed" me to Jim Robinson. Oh, the horror.

Be serious and be adult. I don't know what you are doing, but I am analyzing reality. Reality is that the final choice will come from one of four guys, none of them very conservative. That's life. Your choice is that you can sit it out, take your little ball and go home, or do the best you can with what you have.

221 posted on 01/08/2008 6:25:01 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: LS

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#val=R


222 posted on 01/08/2008 6:25:08 PM PST by DWar
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To: Robbin

I thought I heard he spent 5 or 6 million on adds in NH.


223 posted on 01/08/2008 6:25:20 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: concretebob
Can I have your tagline? I need it for March. I'll give you credit.

LOL. Of course you can bob.
No need to give me credit. I "borrowed" it myself.

Here is the complete quote:
"It is easier to believe a lie that one has heard a thousand times than to believe a fact that one has never heard before." --Robert S. Lynd"

224 posted on 01/08/2008 6:25:38 PM PST by jan in Colorado ("It's easier to believe a lie one hears 1,000 times than to believe a fact that one has never heard)
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To: LS

This site has become emblematic of what Rush said the media wants - a splintered conservative coalition.


225 posted on 01/08/2008 6:26:05 PM PST by Scarchin (Mitt is my man)
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To: bmwcyle

“Now NH picks a freak like McCain.”

I’m watching him “speak” now...he is reading every single word! Could not even say “thank you” without reading it!


226 posted on 01/08/2008 6:26:35 PM PST by toldyou
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To: Reagan Man
Actually I don't support Romney ... I prefer Hunter. He is likable as an individual but he does not reflect my thinking in regards to many of the issues. The bottom line here, between the two States is ... the first choice is vastly different but the second choice is the same ... regardless of the reasoning for the vote.

I'm just trying to analyze in my mind what might be happening. I don't think there is a 'loser' till the respective conventions kick all others to the curb but one.
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On the Dem side if the projections are right ... the Dem choice appears to be up in the air for a consistent first and second place.

Results
Iowa Dems - Obama (38%); Edwards (30%); Clinton (29%)
Iowa Repubs - Huckabee (34%); Romney (25%); Thompson (13%)

Early Results (8:30PM)
New Hampshire Dems - Clinton (40%); Obama (30%); Edwards (17%)
New Hampshire Repubs - McCain (37%); Romney (29%); Huckabee (12%)

But more than that it's interesting to see the what the results represent. (I'd include the total numbers of votes but I don't have those at hand.) Such as the big turnouts. Speculation on my part - yes. But none the less actively using the 'gray matter'. (I know I'm not a pundit ... just my opinion.)

As I said in my Primary it's Hunter. I'll have to wait and see what choice I have in the General Election. Take care.
227 posted on 01/08/2008 6:26:42 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Boanarges
I agree. I concluded this about eight months ago when people were trying to get him to run (with enough TIME to actually mount a campaign and get an organization) and no one moved.

And if you have a candidate who doesn't want to run, it's a disaster to give him the nomination (and it would be a gift, not anything earned).

228 posted on 01/08/2008 6:26:43 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: NeoCaveman
That’s our new “front runner”

Sorry buddy but that's a false assertion; Romney leads in the delegates.

finishing a few points ahead in a given state does not make one the "front runner”.

229 posted on 01/08/2008 6:27:16 PM PST by TeleStraightShooter (The Right To Take Life is NOT a Constitutional "Liberty" protected by the 14th Amendment)
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To: onja
And just an observation concerning McCain’s victory speech. I’m amazed that people can get worked up at such a non-inspirational, non-charismatic prepared speech.

That seemed almost as staged as a Hillary rally.

230 posted on 01/08/2008 6:27:26 PM PST by CASchack
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To: jern

It’s a shame. Dems I know say they like Paul and McCain on the Republican side.


231 posted on 01/08/2008 6:27:31 PM PST by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: Rock&RollRepublican
"I really like and respect Fred Thompson. Unfortunately, he just doesn't have the stamina and drive to campaign and win the US Presidency, followed by four long tough years in office."

Another winner of the Flip Romney Talking Points Parrot Award for Mindless Mumboobery.

U.S. Army Retired


232 posted on 01/08/2008 6:27:40 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (ROMNEY: "I LOVE MANDATES.")
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To: Reagan Man

Kucinich has twice as many votes as Fred...WOW!


233 posted on 01/08/2008 6:27:46 PM PST by Samba
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To: Harrius Magnus

It’s a matter of congressional record, we went all through that during the 2000 election. Look it up if you don’t believe me.


234 posted on 01/08/2008 6:28:21 PM PST by Eva
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To: Reagan Man
I'd bet you dollars to donuts I contacted people around Fred's camp long before you even thought he was a serious candidate. Way back then I started to get the sense that he wasn't serious---at least, serious enough to actually make a real run.

His SC staff, today, were put on half pay. That's not a serious campaign, in any way, shape, or form.

235 posted on 01/08/2008 6:28:21 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: snarkybob

“There really is something disquieting about McShamnesty. When he’s talking in front of the cameras in front of a small group with his wife there, something is just not right.
Can someone else explain that better.”

How about this. You don’t like him. LOL

Hmmm, you might be onto something. Okay, I admit it. I don’t like Shamnesty and I don’t like the McCain-Shamnesty ticket.

Other that I respect his service. I’d like him and his wife to retire near the border in Arizona. Then he can host all the illegal aliens, drug dealers, coyote runners, Hezzbully and Islamic Jihad passing through.


236 posted on 01/08/2008 6:28:56 PM PST by romanesq
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To: scarface367
>>>>>That’s nice ....

I've just been following the Reagan model for conservatism covering the 33 years. First hand mind you. That is all I know and its served me pretty darn well. If you were paying attention, you would know what constitutes a real, true blue conservative too. It isn't Huckabee or McCain and its definitely not Giuliani or Romney.

Wake up! Fred is the only conservative in the top five.

237 posted on 01/08/2008 6:29:12 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: devere

Well, you’re setting the bar too high. It would be a miracle for Fred to win 2nd in SC. A third is more likely, but even then it’s competitive.


238 posted on 01/08/2008 6:29:22 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: umgud; All

“If Romney loses Michigan and drops out, who gets his voters?”

Here’s what Rasmussen shows for South Carolina:

“The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey shows both Huckabee at 28%, John McCain at 21% and Mitt Romney at 15%. In mid-December, Huckabee and Romney were tied for the lead with 23% of the vote while McCain was well off the pace at 12%. The current survey offers disappointing news for Fred Thompson who earns just 11% of the vote, down a point since December. As recently as November, Thompson was tied for the lead in South Carolina.”

If Huckabee wins in S.C., which I think he will, with McCain in 2nd place, then Romney will definitely lose in Michigan. Plus, if Thompson comes in 3rd or lower in S.C. he really should pull out of the race and will.

I think Thompson will endorse his longtime friend McCain, or not endorse anyone at all. Thompson voters will be really sullen and mad for awhile and then I think the social conservatives that are with him will mostly gravitate to Huckabee. The other types will go primarily to McCain with some to Guiliani.

Romney will be total toast after Michigan and should pull out, and probably will. He won’t endorse anyone...he hates them all and they equally despise him.

Now to the answer about Romney’s supporters. Those that are primarily religious/moral voters will go to Huckabee (except for the mormon & mormophile ones that would vote for anyone but Huckabee). The other types will go to McCain mainly. Some will actually go to Guiliani.

So, whether it be Fred or Mitt that drop out (and they both will), McCain will benefit from the fiscal types and Huckabee from the social types.

Huckabee will do better than McCain in Florida, but McCain will do better than Huckabee in Michigan. They will be pretty even by Super Tuesday with McCain seen as front runner.

On Super Tuesday, Guiliani will pull some NE states but McCain will take CA. Huckabee will do well in the Southern states. When the smoke clears, McCain will be ahead and win the GOP nomination, and he will pick Huckabee to be his VP to keep morals/values voters with the GOP.

Of course, it is always possible that Fred will come from behind in S.C. and give us a viable candidate to compete with Huckabee in the South, but don’t count on it. I think he is running out of air.

Another scenario that is possible would be for Huckabee to do better on Super Tuesday than I anticipate. If so, the Huckaboom could lead to him being the GOP nominee. However, I would say that he has earned a VP slot, and nothing higher at this time.


239 posted on 01/08/2008 6:29:51 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Colofornian

No, it’s not. But neither is this nonsense about having to “win” first place in order to advance toward the goal of a nomination.


240 posted on 01/08/2008 6:30:07 PM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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