Posted on 01/03/2008 12:08:45 PM PST by xjcsa
Edited on 01/03/2008 7:30:11 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
I thought the time was right to start up a live thread for results and comments about tonight, so here we are!
Sure he sounds like a preacher. Think Martin Luther King. That kind of speaking stirs folks. So, now we have preacher against preacher in the race. I dunno, maybe I will sit this one out. Not that I have anything against preachers.
Where can I find a pic of her hideous heinous looking awful?
Ir’s supposed to be the Jackie O look. Wheres the pillbox hat?
GIVE IT UP for Michelle!
Cookies and hugs for everyone!
Interisting comment from the Fox news reporter on his transportation. They made an early decision today to ride on the Obama plane to NH instead of Hillary’s plane. He was a little sheeple when he said it on TV. But, he did guess correctly. Now he will be with Obama in the morning.
Cookies and hugs for everyone!
You said — “Yes, the evangelicals are an important part of the base. But they at least used to pretend to also support conservative policies. Apparently, all that matters is he smile and proclaim he’s a good Christian Man, and he can sit there with an open copy of “The Communist Manifesto” and they’ll still vote for him.”
Well, at least I’ve made clear in my previous posts that I make being a Christian the *first criteria* — but — not the last criteria. After one is a Christian, then I can go down the political list of things to considers.
And you’ll find that most conservative Christians do match up to (for the most part) conservative political values. Perhaps they don’t with all of them, but for the most part they do. AND THEN, they will also have another list of a few additional items that they expect the GOP to carry through on, which may not have historically been part of the GOP. But, that’s the price that the GOP pays for having people who, for the most part, do go along with the GOP agenda.
Just don’t end up alienating the Evangelical vote, because most are “nuts enough” (LOL) to break away and abandon anyone who ends up stomping on the most important values that they have from Christianity. They’ll do it on principle no matter what kind of trouble it creates (and that would create a world of trouble for a lot of people...).
Regards,
Star Traveler
sorry if this has been posted already, FR is slow tonight with the love for Fred and other GOP candidates and the Obama is scary posts...
I do not get all the FR love for Fred I think Fred is just a lighter version of Huckabee, and do not forget Fred had to drop out of his acting role in one of the most liberal show on TV(the original Law and Order)....do not think being around such liberal minded people did not have a liberal effect on Fred’s views...just my thought though...
He is the only candidate with a tyke, am I right on that?
Obviously, it depends on the Republican candidate, but I think Obama can turn AR, FL, IA, MO, and OH...remember, 2008 is just an extension of the 2006 “change” election...those states were very close and a smooth talking uniter like Obama can grab the extra votes...
It breaks me up every time!
Leni
Tkanks for your honest assessment. I am a Romney backer but would gladly back Fred. If Fred doesn’t rise up and we defeat Romney, either Huckabee or Guiliani will get the nomination. I don’t like the prospect.
You said — “Yes, the evangelicals are an important part of the base. But they at least used to pretend to also support conservative policies. Apparently, all that matters is he smile and proclaim he’s a good Christian Man, and he can sit there with an open copy of “The Communist Manifesto” and they’ll still vote for him.”
Well, at least I’ve made clear in my previous posts that I make being a Christian the *first criteria* — but — not the last criteria. After one is a Christian, then I can go down the political list of things to considers.
And you’ll find that most conservative Christians do match up to (for the most part) conservative political values. Perhaps they don’t with all of them, but for the most part they do. AND THEN, they will also have another list of a few additional items that they expect the GOP to carry through on, which may not have historically been part of the GOP. But, that’s the price that the GOP pays for having people who, for the most part, do go along with the GOP agenda.
Just don’t end up alienating the Evangelical vote, because most are “nuts enough” (LOL) to break away and abandon anyone who ends up stomping on the most important values that they have from Christianity. They’ll do it on principle no matter what kind of trouble it creates (and that would create a world of trouble for a lot of people...).
Regards,
Star Traveler
Where can I find a pic of her hideous heinous looking awful?
You said — “Yes, the evangelicals are an important part of the base. But they at least used to pretend to also support conservative policies. Apparently, all that matters is he smile and proclaim he’s a good Christian Man, and he can sit there with an open copy of “The Communist Manifesto” and they’ll still vote for him.”
Well, at least I’ve made clear in my previous posts that I make being a Christian the *first criteria* — but — not the last criteria. After one is a Christian, then I can go down the political list of things to considers.
And you’ll find that most conservative Christians do match up to (for the most part) conservative political values. Perhaps they don’t with all of them, but for the most part they do. AND THEN, they will also have another list of a few additional items that they expect the GOP to carry through on, which may not have historically been part of the GOP. But, that’s the price that the GOP pays for having people who, for the most part, do go along with the GOP agenda.
Just don’t end up alienating the Evangelical vote, because most are “nuts enough” (LOL) to break away and abandon anyone who ends up stomping on the most important values that they have from Christianity. They’ll do it on principle no matter what kind of trouble it creates (and that would create a world of trouble for a lot of people...).
Regards,
Star Traveler
FR is slowing down, just watched the 10 o'clock news local & switched to Des Moines.
Of all the candidates, I personally thought Obama had the most charisma. I don't hold his race (he's running as a black but he is bi-racial) against him at all, it is what he stands for that I would never support him personally. Agreed that his race would be a sad reason to lose, but I was just passing on a take from someone in a southern state who tracks things, a much more liberal Republican than I.
Now the numbers are flying fast and furiously. Obama is the big winner in Iowa, guess that means he scored the majority of total votes. Nationally they are still showing Hillary ahead. Not sure how that will play out or if it's media hype.
Here are some more numbers on the turnout, think they are probably for my county. 218,000 Democrats, 184,000 Republicans. Huge turnout especially in the cold and snow, roads pretty good. We are in a blue area, disappointing but no big surprise.
The Republicans had a terrific turnout, no shovels for us, remember I see my part of the state as a blue area. SRO in one place and lots of new registrants. The county chairman is very pleased. So let's hope it keeps up!
The big surprise to me are the huge numbers throughout the state for Obama, no surprise locally. These are largely white votes and a lot of the women they were expecting to go for Hillary.
Republicans and Democrats alike got schools for polling places, don't know why my two precincts the Republicans had to share a supermarket dining hall. The Dems got the school for the same two precincts.
From my POV.
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