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Iowa Caucuses - Results Live Thread
January 3, 2008 | xjcsa

Posted on 01/03/2008 12:08:45 PM PST by xjcsa

Edited on 01/03/2008 7:30:11 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

I thought the time was right to start up a live thread for results and comments about tonight, so here we are!



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2008; biden; caucus; caucuses; dodd; edwards; elections; fred; fredthompson; giuliani; gravel; hillary; huckabee; hunter; ia2008; iowa; keyes; kucinich; livethread; mccain; mikehuckabee; obama; paul; richardson; romney; thompson
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To: TheLion

Sure he sounds like a preacher. Think Martin Luther King. That kind of speaking stirs folks. So, now we have preacher against preacher in the race. I dunno, maybe I will sit this one out. Not that I have anything against preachers.


2,701 posted on 01/03/2008 8:33:08 PM PST by WVNan
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To: tioga

Where can I find a pic of her hideous heinous looking awful?


2,702 posted on 01/03/2008 8:33:48 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: unspun

Ir’s supposed to be the Jackie O look. Wheres the pillbox hat?

GIVE IT UP for Michelle!


2,703 posted on 01/03/2008 8:33:52 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Zechariah11

Cookies and hugs for everyone!


2,704 posted on 01/03/2008 8:33:52 PM PST by rintense (Thompson/Hunter 2008!)
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To: kempo

Interisting comment from the Fox news reporter on his transportation. They made an early decision today to ride on the Obama plane to NH instead of Hillary’s plane. He was a little sheeple when he said it on TV. But, he did guess correctly. Now he will be with Obama in the morning.


2,705 posted on 01/03/2008 8:33:53 PM PST by AGreatPer ("The Democrats don't give a rats ass about this country"....Rush Limbaugh, 11/15/07)
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To: Zechariah11

Cookies and hugs for everyone!


2,706 posted on 01/03/2008 8:34:08 PM PST by rintense (Thompson/Hunter 2008!)
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To: Quix
Yes. He has so much integrity he bought his credentials from a diploma mill and lied about it. To think he is brilliant shows you are not used to scholarly, objective literature. If you were familiar with the subject independent of him, you would realize what a bunch of junk he writes. You should read a little more carefully what I sent to you.
2,707 posted on 01/03/2008 8:34:28 PM PST by broncobilly
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To: RockinRight

You said — “Yes, the evangelicals are an important part of the base. But they at least used to pretend to also support conservative policies. Apparently, all that matters is he smile and proclaim he’s a good Christian Man, and he can sit there with an open copy of “The Communist Manifesto” and they’ll still vote for him.”

Well, at least I’ve made clear in my previous posts that I make being a Christian the *first criteria* — but — not the last criteria. After one is a Christian, then I can go down the political list of things to considers.

And you’ll find that most conservative Christians do match up to (for the most part) conservative political values. Perhaps they don’t with all of them, but for the most part they do. AND THEN, they will also have another list of a few additional items that they expect the GOP to carry through on, which may not have historically been part of the GOP. But, that’s the price that the GOP pays for having people who, for the most part, do go along with the GOP agenda.

Just don’t end up alienating the Evangelical vote, because most are “nuts enough” (LOL) to break away and abandon anyone who ends up stomping on the most important values that they have from Christianity. They’ll do it on principle no matter what kind of trouble it creates (and that would create a world of trouble for a lot of people...).

Regards,
Star Traveler


2,708 posted on 01/03/2008 8:34:49 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: seekthetruth

sorry if this has been posted already, FR is slow tonight with the love for Fred and other GOP candidates and the Obama is scary posts...

I do not get all the FR love for Fred I think Fred is just a lighter version of Huckabee, and do not forget Fred had to drop out of his acting role in one of the most liberal show on TV(the original Law and Order)....do not think being around such liberal minded people did not have a liberal effect on Fred’s views...just my thought though...


2,709 posted on 01/03/2008 8:34:51 PM PST by yield 2 the right (New England Patriots: The New Standard of Excellence!!!)
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To: Liberty Valance
Fred's little one is as cute as a button. She could earn the grandparent vote all across the country!

He is the only candidate with a tyke, am I right on that?

2,710 posted on 01/03/2008 8:35:01 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: CurlyBill

Obviously, it depends on the Republican candidate, but I think Obama can turn AR, FL, IA, MO, and OH...remember, 2008 is just an extension of the 2006 “change” election...those states were very close and a smooth talking uniter like Obama can grab the extra votes...


2,711 posted on 01/03/2008 8:35:10 PM PST by magritte
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To: Quix
Oh, Quix....I haven't seen that for a long time.

It breaks me up every time!

Leni

2,712 posted on 01/03/2008 8:35:11 PM PST by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !!!)
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To: Azzurri

Tkanks for your honest assessment. I am a Romney backer but would gladly back Fred. If Fred doesn’t rise up and we defeat Romney, either Huckabee or Guiliani will get the nomination. I don’t like the prospect.


2,713 posted on 01/03/2008 8:35:14 PM PST by TheLion
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To: RockinRight

You said — “Yes, the evangelicals are an important part of the base. But they at least used to pretend to also support conservative policies. Apparently, all that matters is he smile and proclaim he’s a good Christian Man, and he can sit there with an open copy of “The Communist Manifesto” and they’ll still vote for him.”

Well, at least I’ve made clear in my previous posts that I make being a Christian the *first criteria* — but — not the last criteria. After one is a Christian, then I can go down the political list of things to considers.

And you’ll find that most conservative Christians do match up to (for the most part) conservative political values. Perhaps they don’t with all of them, but for the most part they do. AND THEN, they will also have another list of a few additional items that they expect the GOP to carry through on, which may not have historically been part of the GOP. But, that’s the price that the GOP pays for having people who, for the most part, do go along with the GOP agenda.

Just don’t end up alienating the Evangelical vote, because most are “nuts enough” (LOL) to break away and abandon anyone who ends up stomping on the most important values that they have from Christianity. They’ll do it on principle no matter what kind of trouble it creates (and that would create a world of trouble for a lot of people...).

Regards,
Star Traveler


2,714 posted on 01/03/2008 8:35:33 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: tioga

Where can I find a pic of her hideous heinous looking awful?


2,715 posted on 01/03/2008 8:35:41 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: RockinRight

You said — “Yes, the evangelicals are an important part of the base. But they at least used to pretend to also support conservative policies. Apparently, all that matters is he smile and proclaim he’s a good Christian Man, and he can sit there with an open copy of “The Communist Manifesto” and they’ll still vote for him.”

Well, at least I’ve made clear in my previous posts that I make being a Christian the *first criteria* — but — not the last criteria. After one is a Christian, then I can go down the political list of things to considers.

And you’ll find that most conservative Christians do match up to (for the most part) conservative political values. Perhaps they don’t with all of them, but for the most part they do. AND THEN, they will also have another list of a few additional items that they expect the GOP to carry through on, which may not have historically been part of the GOP. But, that’s the price that the GOP pays for having people who, for the most part, do go along with the GOP agenda.

Just don’t end up alienating the Evangelical vote, because most are “nuts enough” (LOL) to break away and abandon anyone who ends up stomping on the most important values that they have from Christianity. They’ll do it on principle no matter what kind of trouble it creates (and that would create a world of trouble for a lot of people...).

Regards,
Star Traveler


2,716 posted on 01/03/2008 8:35:42 PM PST by Star Traveler
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2,717 posted on 01/03/2008 8:36:11 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( UNITED BY OUR CORE BELIEFS Fred08)
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To: Tennessee Nana
You sound like Peggy Noonan. "He would be much harder than Hillary to beat.." This is an example. I think it is good to write authoritatively. I doubt that you really know any of the statements that you make.
2,718 posted on 01/03/2008 8:36:14 PM PST by Harrius Magnus (Pucker up Mo, and your dhimmi Leftist freaks, here comes your Jizya!)
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To: mylife
Like I said.....numbers in Iowa ain't represtentative of the nation.

Just heard Barry Obama's triumph...and it was polished pol rhetoric.

I really have to admire his stumping, his enthusiasm and his affront to Hillary. All this from a candidate that has no experience, no military service and no fear.

Be afraid, Obama. Punahou wasn't a prep school for national poitics...or the Grifters.
2,719 posted on 01/03/2008 8:36:27 PM PST by BIGLOOK
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To: Marie2
That would be a sad reason to lose.

FR is slowing down, just watched the 10 o'clock news local & switched to Des Moines.

Of all the candidates, I personally thought Obama had the most charisma. I don't hold his race (he's running as a black but he is bi-racial) against him at all, it is what he stands for that I would never support him personally. Agreed that his race would be a sad reason to lose, but I was just passing on a take from someone in a southern state who tracks things, a much more liberal Republican than I.

Now the numbers are flying fast and furiously. Obama is the big winner in Iowa, guess that means he scored the majority of total votes. Nationally they are still showing Hillary ahead. Not sure how that will play out or if it's media hype.

Here are some more numbers on the turnout, think they are probably for my county. 218,000 Democrats, 184,000 Republicans. Huge turnout especially in the cold and snow, roads pretty good. We are in a blue area, disappointing but no big surprise.

The Republicans had a terrific turnout, no shovels for us, remember I see my part of the state as a blue area. SRO in one place and lots of new registrants. The county chairman is very pleased. So let's hope it keeps up!

The big surprise to me are the huge numbers throughout the state for Obama, no surprise locally. These are largely white votes and a lot of the women they were expecting to go for Hillary.

Republicans and Democrats alike got schools for polling places, don't know why my two precincts the Republicans had to share a supermarket dining hall. The Dems got the school for the same two precincts.

From my POV.

2,720 posted on 01/03/2008 8:36:31 PM PST by Aliska
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