Huckabee Apologizes For Mormon Remark

CBS News ^ | Dec. 12, 2007 | CBS/AP

[11th_VA]

Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee says he has apologized to rival Mitt Romney for questioning whether Mormons believe Jesus and the devil are brothers.

On CNN, Huckabee said he told Romney "face to face" after today's debate in Iowa that he was sorry for the quote from an article to be published in Sunday's New York Times Magazine.

Huckabee told CNN that he had asked if Mormons believe Jesus and the devil are brothers because it was something he had heard, adding that he never thought his query would appear in the story. On NBC's "Today" show, Romney said "attacking someone's religion is really going too far."

Huckabee says he told Romney today that he would never make an issue of any point of Mormon doctrine, adding that the former Massachusetts governor's response "was gracious."

Romney's spokesman, Eric Fehrnstrom, told CBS News' Scott Conroy the apology was accepted.

[Elsie]

A blog describes it thus:

 

 

Yes!!

 

 

The things he SAID were just SCANDALOUS!!!

 

 

Huckabee: U.S. gave up on religion

School shootings were wake-up call, he says

By Linda Caillouet (Contact)

 

SALT LAKE CITY — Government may have dropped the ball in modern American society, but religion dropped it first, Gov. Mike Huckabee told Southern Baptist pastors Sunday night.

"The reason we have so much government is because we have so much broken humanity," he said. "And the reason we have so much broken humanity is because sin reigns in the hearts and lives of human beings instead of the Savior."

Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister, addressed his contemporaries at the two-day Pastors' Conference, which continues today. The three-day Southern Baptist Convention begins Tuesday here in the heartland of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the city in which the Mormons have their world headquarters.

Huckabee told the pastors gathered in the Salt Palace Convention Center that while the March 1, 1997, tornadoes which struck Arkansas were tragic, at least the devastation could be clearly seen from a helicopter. In contrast, he said, the catalysts for the nation's recent school shootings -- including the one March 24 near Jonesboro that left four students and a teacher dead and 10 others wounded -- were harder to see but were driven by "the winds of spiritual change in a nation that has forgotten its God."

"Government knows it does not have the answer, but it's arrogant and acts as though it does," Huckabee said. "Church does have the answer but will cowardly deny that it does and wonder when the world will be changed."

The shootings were just one more wake-up call to the nation, he said.

"I fear we will turn and hit the snooze button one more time and lose this great republic of ours."

Huckabee said ungiving individuals are responsible for higher taxes.

"I'm often asked why taxes are so high and government is so big. It's because the faith we have in local churches has become so small. If we'd been doing what we should have -- giving a dime from every dollar to help the widows, the orphans and the poor -- we now wouldn't be giving nearly 50 cents of every dollar to a government that's doing ... what we should have been doing all along."

Huckabee also explained why he left pastoring for politics.

"I didn't get into politics because I thought government had a better answer. I got into politics because I knew government didn't have the real answers, that the real answers lie in accepting Jesus Christ into our lives."

He compared his entry into politics to "getting inside the dragon's belly," adding, "There's not one thing we can do in those marbled halls and domed capitols that can equal what's done when Jesus touches the lives of a sinner."

The most basic unit of government is not the city council, quorum court or state legislature, Huckabee said. "It is Mom and Dad raising kids and teaching them respect for authority, others and God."

The nation has descended gradually into crisis, Huckabee said, and repairing the damage needs to be gradual, too. He said the solution is simple: faith in Christ.

Huckabee recalled the five occasions he's had to sit by the phone on the eve of an execution.

"It's the greatest sense of helplessness and despair you can imagine to know we've exhausted all help and hope here on earth for that person."

He also spoke of his early misconceptions of his duties as a pastor.

"In one of the first churches I was assigned to, I thought I was supposed to be the captain of a warship leading the congregation into a battle against spiritual darkness," he said.

"But they wanted the captain of the Love Boat. They just wanted everybody to be happy. It was not about how many people were won to Christ or how many teens were pulled away from drugs or how many marriages were saved. Instead, it was about the seniors having a great trip going to watch the fall leaves change, the teen-agers going to a better summer camp than the church across town."

Huckabee concluded his speech by recalling his 10th birthday, when he accepted Christ.

"I went to Vacation Bible School for all the wrong reasons -- I was told they'd give me all the cookies I could eat and all the Kool-Aid I could drink. But that day I got something better than cookies and Kool-Aid. I got the Savior.

"I hope we answer the alarm clock and take this nation back for Christ."

Before Huckabee spoke, more than 350 copies of his new book, Kids Who Kill: Confronting our Culture of Violence, had been placed in reporters' press boxes in the convention center press room.

The slick cover of the book is a grim one -- a black-and-white, blurry photograph of a young boy pointing a gun at the reader. The most prominent part of the photograph is the round barrel of the gun. At the top of the book, this question is posed: "Are we reaping what we've sown?"

The book was co-written by Dr. George Grant, director of the King's Meadow Study Center and a contributor to World magazine.

The back cover states: "No more hand-wringing, no more finger-pointing. No more sound bites." It also makes a reference to the Jonesboro school shootings. Huckabee has recently been criticized by opponents claiming he has capitalized on the shootings with the publication of his book.

The back cover states: "Just after lunch on March 24, 1998, four school children and a teacher were murdered by two students, ages thirteen and eleven, at an Arkansas middle school. Governor Mike Huckabee was informed of the tragedy en route from Washington, D.C. By the time he arrived, the news media were already waiting -- already polling the pundits and drawing conclusions based on the sketchiest information. The quest for quick answers has robbed us of the truth. Until now."

The paperback is published by Broadman & Holman, a Nashville, Tenn., arm of the Baptist Sunday School Board. It retails for $11.99. Publicists for the book said last week they didn't expect it to arrive at the convention until today.

Huckabee and his wife, Janet, left Salt Lake City immediately after his speech, and the governor did not hold a book signing at the convention. In fact, Huckabee didn't know the books had made it to the convention, said editors of the biweekly Arkansas Baptist Newsmagazine who visited with the governor shortly before his speech.

Huckabee, governor since 1996, is a former president of the Arkansas Baptist Convention. He has authored one other book, Character is the Issue: How People with Integrity Can Revolutionize America, which was first publicly announced at the 1997 Southern Baptist Convention in Dallas a year ago and released last September.

Other books given to reporters at the convention Sunday included a how-to boycott book aimed at the Walt Disney Co. by Richard D. Land titled Sending a Message to Mickey: The ABC's of Making Your Voice Heard at Disney. The back cover features an outline of the famous mouse's round ears and the words: "He who has ears, let him hear."

The other book was Mormonism Unmasked by R. Philip Roberts, who examines the beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

This article was published Monday, June 8, 1998.

 

 

 

[Elsie]

They just like to wear special underwear...

That they've been told will PROTECT THEM.

(Hint: they don't.)

[Elsie]

If you have an ounce of religious tolerance in you, you need to tolerate anothers sects ability to define who they are *themselves*.

Oh, we're letting you do that!

You can worship whatever and whoever you wish - we will NOT interfer.

But, we will NOT be silent in pointing out what WE consider to be wrong.

Will you allow US to do THAT?

[WOSG]

“Oh, we’re letting you do that!”

Once again, you kneejerk assume I am Mormon simply because I suggest a little more tolerance of their sect. I am not.

Your defense of the right to be obnoxious in expressing your beliefs is duly noted. Have no fear - nobody will take away the ALLCAPS key on you.

[WOSG]

Thanks for validating my point ... among the material handed out at the convention Huckabee attended was:

“The other book was Mormonism Unmasked by R. Philip Roberts, who examines the beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.”

[madison10]

So then please tell us, “Where did Satan come from?”

God created him, just as, if you are a Bible believer, He created mankind. Mankind is just a step lower than the angels in the scheme of things.

He, as in Satan, is an angel. To be more accurate, a fallen angel. He took 1/3 of the angels with him when he left Heaven. Any of this sound familiar?

Jesus mentioned seeing Satan fall from Heaven.

[WOSG]

So what is your point in posting an irrelevent snippet of scripture that you’ve posted at least 20 times before in recent threads by you and fellow “Mormon=cult” ranters?

What level of cluelessness are you on when you jump right in and gleefully do what Huckabee decided was shameful and had no place in the Presidential race?
At what point comes the ‘ enough is enough’ moment for you when you realize you are shamelessly shilling for low, ugly thoughts that are a waste of everyone’s time?

Whenever it happens, not a moment too soon.

[WOSG]

Maybe. Maybe not. Odds of hitting an SBC-perspective view on Mormonism in a single ‘innocent’ question dead-center-bullseye is about the odds of seeing Huckabee actually do anything about getting the income tax repealed. IMHO, Zero.

I suggest you use up your gullibility points on a candidate who isn’t as slick as Huckabee and doesnt have the ethics issues he does, nor is a Jimmy Carter-like ignorant boob and liberal on foreign policy ...

http://therealmikehuckabee.blogspot.com/
Soliciting gifts from public: “Gov. Mike Huckabee and his wife, Janet, are registered for home furnishing gifts at Target and Dillard’s department stores as they prepare to leave the Governor’s Mansion in January and move into a house they recently purchased in North Little Rock. “

Even more on Huck’s hand-in-cookie-jar and using-public-money-for-private-purpose ethics issues here:
http://realmikehuckabee.blogspot.com/

http://realmikehuckabee.blogspot.com/2007/12/meet-huckster-san-diego-union-tribune.html

Over the years, Huckabee has:

-Used campaign funds to pay himself $14,000 for being his own media consultant.

-Used campaign funds to pay himself $43,000 for use of his private plane while attempting to hide what the payment was actually in return for.

-Used an account set up to cover operational costs of the governor’s mansion to pay such obviously personal expenses as fast-food and dry-cleaning bills.

-Set up a nonprofit organization that paid him $23,500 without disclosing the source of the money.

-Attempted to take $70,000 of furniture with him when moving out of the governor’s mansion.

-Took more than 130 gifts worth more than $300,000 – while suing to overturn a law that made him disclose the gifts. “

File this under: “Will be used by Hillary two weeks before the election”.

[Jeff Head]

The protection associated with the garments is meant to be a spiritual one, and it is something that (like the Promise Keepers) is special and Holy to LDS members. It is really beneath you, as a Christian, to make fun of something someone else, who holds your same moral values, and commitment to Christ Jesus, holds dear and holy. But that is just my opinion.

Anyway, just as with any follower of Christ, IE. an individual who accepts Jesus Christ as their personal Savior, and who makes a true commitment as evidenced by their "fruit" (by their fruit ye shall know them), and if they try to live according to Christ's commandments (if ye love me, keep my commandments), then Christ Himself promises "protection" in the form of the Comforter, and "Peace to their souls".

The promises associated with those garments are along those very lines and are really not something that ought to be made light or fun of IMHO.

Anyhow, not looking for some bash or arguement (which I will not do because, as with all matters of true faith, it is not subject to hue and cry and contention), just trying to lend some perspective as a card-carrying member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

[TeleStraightShooter]

I have no idea what your talking about, are you into sniffing underwear?

I sense from your prior posts you are into insulting people, if so, it reflects poorly upon you and your children.

[wastedpotential]

For those who have drank the Huckabee kool aid (which I am one so far), this appears to be a genuine act on Huckabee’s part to follow the Matthew 18 principle. He did it first to Mitt, not to the cameras. To those who are cynical, it appears Huck got the question out there and now wants it both ways. I still believe the former.

Now, let’s move on to substance. This issue is not a political one, but a theological one, and as such has no place in politics.

[Dan(9698)]

but I gots me an High IQ an kin parse a speaech!

Your logic is the same as democrats.

Just like Bill Clinton, the meaning of "is" is.

[Elsie]

So what is your point in posting an irrelevent snippet of scripture that you’ve posted at least 20 times before in recent threads by you and fellow “Mormon=cult” ranters?

The LDS organization STILL believes this!!!

I guess to YOU, PRESBYTERIANS are 'irrelevant'; right?

[Elsie]

It is really beneath you, as a Christian, to make fun of something someone else, who holds your same moral values, and commitment to Christ Jesus, holds dear and holy. But that is just my opinion.

Hmmm...

If I have an 'opinion'; then I guess it won't be 'making fun'; will it?

[Elsie]

I have no idea what your talking about, are you into sniffing underwear?

ESCALATION ALERT!!

---

I sense from your prior posts you are into insulting people, if so, it reflects poorly upon you and your children.

Thank YOU for NOT being 'insulting'!

[Elsie]

The protection associated with the garments is meant to be a spiritual one, and it is something that (like the Promise Keepers) is special and Holy to LDS members.

Some seem to disagree:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9upYoCHyCv4&feature=related

[WOSG]

“The LDS organization STILL believes this!!!”
Yawn. Well then it hardly passes for news this 180 year old scribbling of Joe Smith’s opinion of Presbys.

I got a beef with Presbys, but its mainly their DC office buying into the global warming cr*p and nothing theological.

[FastCoyote]

[Your logic is the same as democrats.

Just like Bill Clinton, the meaning of “is” is.]

You give no, zero, zip explanation but just want me to accept your declaration without proof. My how Clintonian that is.

[Gondring]

What you quoting are discoures they are not scripture nor doctrine and never was consider as such!

Well... the LDS church still quotes from them, and the Deseret Book Store had this to say:

"If anyone tells you that the sermons found therein are not recognized by the Church, they know not what they are talking about."

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