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1 posted on 11/27/2007 6:15:40 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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You mess around with Texans, if you're a vagrant sonny, you'll find yourself on the receiving end of Texas justice. A smoking gun is still the law east of the Pecos.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 11/27/2007 6:17:36 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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praised


3 posted on 11/27/2007 6:17:59 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; kellynla; BurbankKarl; Brad's Gramma; A CA Guy; ...

Heard the audio’s on KFI’s Ken and John show as I was cruising on the Socal Freeway toward home....two shotgun blasts and the deed was done......


4 posted on 11/27/2007 6:18:15 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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PASADENA, TEXAS —When he saw two men pry into his neighbor’s house with a crowbar one afternoon earlier this month, Joe Horn did what many people would do: He called 911.

But when police had not shown up by the time the suspects were about to leave, the 61-year-old retiree did something most people probably would not: He stepped outside with his 12-gauge shotgun and killed them.

“I’m not going to let them get away with this,” Horn told the 911 dispatcher, who responded: “Property’s not worth killing someone over. . .

5 posted on 11/27/2007 6:20:07 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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Whatever else...the word will get out and criminals (robbers, thugs, etc.) will know not to visit his, or his neighbors house on pain of death. That's a good thing.

As to the 911 dispatcher's comment that Property is not worth killing for...excuse me? Anyone bent on taking your proerty is a mortal threat to your life, and must be considered so.

6 posted on 11/27/2007 6:20:07 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He called the cops and since they didn’t respond immediately, as a citizen, he has the right to defend property and make citizens arrest.
It wasn’t his fault the criminals didn’t surrender and ran.

Give the man a medal!

Criminals need to be put on notice that breaking in and stealing anyones property makes them subject to a violent lifestyle and a not so friendly conclusion.

And it is naive for anyone to believe the cops are going to drop everything they are doing and come to a residential burglary, just because a neighbor called.


8 posted on 11/27/2007 6:22:05 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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He saved the taxpayers money while ridding society of scum. He can move next door to me.
9 posted on 11/27/2007 6:22:09 PM PST by lula ( Islam IS the Anti-Christ)
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Justice Served, and an Atta Boy


10 posted on 11/27/2007 6:22:30 PM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes. And Vote For Mr. Duncan Hunter, America! TLWNW)
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I believe if you look at Texas jurisprudence, the gentleman was well within the bounds of the law.

We need more people with the fortitude like this guy to do what is neccessary when confronted with a choice.

11 posted on 11/27/2007 6:24:39 PM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary


16 posted on 11/27/2007 6:27:12 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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Shooting of theft suspects may test self-defense law

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Nov. 15, 2007, 9:58PM

By RUTH RENDON and PEGGY O'HARE

In a case legal experts say may "stretch the limits" of the state's self-defense laws, a Pasadena man shot and killed two suspected burglars during a confrontation as they attempted to flee his neighbor's property Wednesday afternoon.

In the minutes before the fatal shootings, Pasadena police said the man called 911 and reported that he had heard glass breaking next door and saw two men entering the home through a window. Still on the phone with police, the man, believed to be in his 70s, saw the suspects leaving from the back of the home.

"I'm getting my gun and going to stop them," the neighbor told the dispatcher during the 2 p.m. call, according to Vance Mitchell, a spokesman for Pasadena police. "The dispatcher said, 'No, stay inside the house; officers are on the way.'

"Then you hear him rack the shotgun. The next sound the dispatcher heard was a boom. Then there was silence for a couple of seconds and then another boom."

After the shotgun blasts, the telephone line went dead. But the neighbor called police again and told a dispatcher what he had done.

When police arrived moments later, they found two dead men in the 7400 block of Timberline Drive. One was across the street, and the other had collapsed two houses down behind a bank of mailboxes in the Village Grove East subdivision.

Up to the grand jury

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AUDIO AVAILABLE AT THIS LINK!!!

24 posted on 11/27/2007 6:38:55 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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They weren't killed for taking stuff from the neighbor's house.

They probably have insurance for that.

They were killed for invading the sanctity of the neighbor's home.

26 posted on 11/27/2007 6:42:20 PM PST by elkfersupper
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So nothing new?? Same old story!


29 posted on 11/27/2007 6:51:16 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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This is the breakdown of our society. When the police don’t care or have the time to respond, we need to take it in our own hands.
Good job! Let me know if he has a defense fund set up


31 posted on 11/27/2007 6:53:22 PM PST by RocketJsqurl
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Remind me if I’m ever in Pasadena, TX to buy that guy a beer.


33 posted on 11/27/2007 6:54:58 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Television is all Tommy Westphall's fault, damn it!)
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I’d want neighbors like this..


34 posted on 11/27/2007 6:58:18 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There is an old joke almost like this:

An old man calls the police to report that his shed is being broken in to by burglars. The dispatcher says that there are no police available.

In frustration the man hangs up but then calls back a few minutes later and says: “Never mind about the burglars, I shot and killed both of them.”

Within minutes there were several squad cars on the scene who found a very much alive burglar in the process of trying to get away with the his loot.

The first cop said the to old man, “I thought you said you killed them?”

The old man responded, “I thought there weren’t any policemen available.”


36 posted on 11/27/2007 6:59:41 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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God bless the poor dear man. He did the right thing, but like all who are in that situation, he will always have to live with himself. He’s the sort I’d like to have as a neighbor, and would feel perfectly safe around.

When the police will not come, or cannot come immediately (as in a rural area), there is nothing else to be done except be your own law. Just because people have insurance on their belongings and home is no reason to stand back and let lawless illegal alien thieves steal everything of value in broad daylight. That is just an invitation to further burglary and, since they stole guns, murder in the commission of their crimes.

Mr. Horn is a hero, and he will always pay the price such men pay. God bless him.


40 posted on 11/27/2007 7:04:28 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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exan a vigilante or brave law abider?

alt PASADENA, TEXAS —When he saw two men pry into his neighbor’s house with a crowbar one afternoon earlier this month, Joe Horn did what many people would do: He called 911.

But when police had not shown up by the time the suspects were about to leave, the 61-year-old retiree did something most people probably would not: He stepped outside with his 12-gauge shotgun and killed them.

“I’m not going to let them get away with this,” Horn told the 911 dispatcher, who responded: “Property’s not worth killing someone over. . .

42 posted on 11/27/2007 7:06:50 PM PST by itsamelman (Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh. - - Al Swearengen)
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Not sure I see much difference between a culture that sanctions shotgunning people to death for minor property crimes and one that sanctions stoning them to death for minor sex crimes - they just overvalue different things.


46 posted on 11/27/2007 7:15:26 PM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (Opinion based on research by an eyewear firm, which surveyed 100 members of a speed dating club.)
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