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Muslims discover Ron Paul (Anti-Zionists encouraged to register republican and send Paul money)
WordPress.com ^ | November 18, 2007 | mariahussain

Posted on 11/19/2007 6:00:13 AM PST by tlb

After the Republican debate on Tuesday evening in Dearborn, Mich., a reporter from the Arab-American News asked Ron Paul what he thought of the term “Islamic fascism.”

“It’s a false term to make people think we’re fighting Hitler,” Paul responded. “It’s war propaganda designed to generate fear so that the war has to be spread.”

The call has gone out to all the Muslim Americans to hurry up and register to vote Republican so that they can vote in the Republican Primary to support Ron Paul, the anti-interventionist, non-isolationist candidate for President of the United States. Muslims are opening their wallets and joining teaparty07.com as well.

An anonymous Ron Paul supporter posted the following message on the internet: “Muslims and Americans have an unique window of opportunity for the 2008 election. There is a candidate running as a Republican that would work to completely cut off the funding to Israel, remove ALL US troops from Arab lands, and repeal the Patriot Act. He’s a Republican with Libertarian views named Ron Paul. Ron Paul’s policies ranging from monetary to foreign are top notch. Till now Muslims and Americans have not had an American Presidential candidate that really suited their best interests. This election is unique in that we have a man running as a Republican that speaks the truth…We know the current policies in the Middle East are failing, not only making it less safe in the world but hurting and killing innocent Muslims, which our media callously calls collateral damage. It is our duty as Muslims to follow the truth regardless of how futile it may seem. Ron Paul is the only candidate that does not seem to be swayed by the influential lobbies that the other candidates are catering to.”

Ron Paul stood up in Congress in 2006 and opposed a resolution that sided with Israel in the Lebanon-Israel conflict. He stated the following.

Ron Paul: “Mr. Speaker, I follow a policy in foreign affairs called non-interventionism. I do not believe we are making the United States more secure when we involve ourselves in conflicts overseas. The Constitution really doesn’t authorize us to be the policemen of the world, much less to favor one side over another in foreign conflicts. It is very clear, reading this resolution objectively, that all the terrorists are on one side and all the victims and the innocents are on the other side. I find this unfair, particularly considering the significantly higher number of civilian casualties among Lebanese civilians. I would rather advocate neutrality rather than picking sides, which is what this resolution does.”

Ron Paul has also sponsored a bill to overturn the Patriot Act. He is one of the few members of Congress from either of the major houses that is speaking rationally about these issues. How can we get everyone, and I mean everyone, to join the Ron Paul Republican voter sign-up campaign?

There is general frustration with politicians these days, and the unwillingness to believe that supporting a particular candidate will make a difference. But whether Ron Paul wins or loses, ronpaul.meetup.com is a great way to meet your neighbors who are against the war and organize the community on a grassroots level. If something like Katrina ever happened to us, knowing our neighbors could mean the difference between life and death to our families.

The common thread I’ve been reading lately about leftists and Jews is that they are having trouble getting more than a dozen people to come to their stuff (whether anti-Zionist or Zionist). The anti-Israel movement is not moving forward, because “protest Zionist imperialism” is just not a catchy slogan. By contrast, there are over 400 RP activists against war taxes in Boston alone. Every day the list of passionate anti-war activists grows. Very few of them agree with every single RP position, they just want to get the Lobby out of the way and pull the troops out of Iraq.

One reason it’s working is because of the software. They made the ronpaul.meetup.com site almost like a dating site, where you can make friends with people in or near your zip code. They made it very easy to get together with new people to join the activism. You can’t beat technology, may as well use it.

In the event that RP actually won the election and got the Hamas treatment, his supporters are fully in support of the Right to Bear Arms. It would be interesting to see what followed.

If anti-war protesters want to continue to focus on the genocidal machinations of the global zionist-imperialist military, industrial, financial, political, neoliberal, media complex, they have to be willing to meet with anyone any time to hear what ideas people have to address this, which is our primary responsibility - even if they are Republicans.

If you ever saw Ron Paul in an interview it cannot be said that he avoids discussing vital issues. He is someone who is willing to make a statement and stick by it even when no one agrees with him. I don’t “believe” in electoral politics but it’s not that much sweat off my brow to go and vote to end war.

I think the fact that NO pro-Israel group will let Ron Paul speak at their convention, not even peace Zionists, is evidence enough that he is the only person to put in charge as commander-in-chief. And, even if he loses, making all these contacts with local anti-interventionists is priceless. If you want to expand the peace movement so that it overlaps with the freedom movement like ripples in a pond, you just have to respect the fact that people might agree with you, but for different reasons.


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To: SJackson

And skip the crap like this in your response, you do reflect on Paul's credibility.

So then would you regard Jews (who are circumcised for religious reasons) as having "sacred magic penises"? (Maybe SJackson will insist they are, LOL, he can address that if he likes). But then would the yarmulke be considered a "sacred magic hat"?
Nice use of quoting out of context and avoiding posting a link so others can see the discussion. You must have been saving that one up. The topic on that other thread was criticism of the "sacred magic underwear" of Mormons and I was addressing the issue of hats, undergarments and surgery in the religious context. BTW, I won that argument but I'm enjoying how you're trying to propagandize it.
101 posted on 11/19/2007 8:16:01 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: jmc813

Fred is not everything I would like to see in a candidate by anymeans but he’s far more acceptable than Paul.

I do think he is a flip flopper on Right To Life to some degree (atleast in terms of actions if not positions).

In the end ANY of the GOP candidates are better than ANY of the Democrat candidates.

(I don’t consider Ron a GOP candidate or even a realisitic Presedential entity of any role except spoiler.)


102 posted on 11/19/2007 8:16:05 AM PST by GulfBreeze (Support America? Then support Duncan Hunter.)
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To: jmc813

Refer to post 62. You guys get wound up just like the DUers trying to slap lipstick by the gallon.

Pray for W and Our Victorious Troops


103 posted on 11/19/2007 8:16:41 AM PST by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: incindiary

“Americans who are sick of the status-quo, people who actually care about the constitution, bill of rights, and our sovereignty...”

Yea, well I’m one of the Americans, but not delusional enough to vote for this idiot. He is WORSE than Hillary Clinton.


104 posted on 11/19/2007 8:17:43 AM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: SJackson
He knows that, we’ve covered this ground before. IMO, supporters like this, both neonazis and his aggressive internet clown, do Paul no good at all, either in gathering support or more immportly should he not win the nomination, generating support for his ideas.

He's not going to win the damn nomination and the disproportional amount of threads on him while Giuliani has a legitimate shot at winning and permanently ruining the GOP makes us look like a bunch of retards.

105 posted on 11/19/2007 8:18:27 AM PST by jmc813 (.) (.)
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To: KDD

USS COLE, remember that?


106 posted on 11/19/2007 8:19:07 AM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: SJackson; KDD
Do you think it would be a good idea for other Republicans to accept support from this corner of the electorate? If so, have Republicans from Ronald Reagan to Bush I to Bush II to the RNC made a mistake by rejecting it?

They support Ron Paul. He doesn't support them.

Nice straw man though. Hopefully, KDD and other Paul supporters won't dignify your shabby attacks with a response.
107 posted on 11/19/2007 8:20:23 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: GulfBreeze
I do think he is a flip flopper on Right To Life to some degree (atleast in terms of actions if not positions).

That's been refuted a million times here on FR. I can give you some links if you'd like. NRTL does not endorse flip-floppers.

108 posted on 11/19/2007 8:21:44 AM PST by jmc813 (.) (.)
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To: KDD
USS Cole, Embassy Bombings in Africa.


109 posted on 11/19/2007 8:21:49 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: George W. Bush
Nice use of quoting out of context and avoiding posting a link so others can see the discussion. You must have been saving that one up. The topic on that other thread was criticism of the "sacred magic underwear" of Mormons and I was addressing the issue of hats, undergarments and surgery in the religious context. BTW, I won that argument but I'm enjoying how you're trying to propagandize it.

Sorry, here's the link, even the full comment, my bold. Worth noting for anyone reading this, I wasn't posting on the thread, and have asked you in the past not to ping me to unrelated threads.

I think it's another of many examples of the offensive nature of most of Paul's web supporters, others can make up their own mind.

So then would you regard Jews (who are circumcised for religious reasons) as having "sacred magic penises"? (Maybe SJackson will insist they are, LOL, he can address that if he likes). But then would the yarmulke be considered a "sacred magic hat"?

Is that what you actually believe? If not, how can you be anything but some kind of bigot against Mormonism and employing a double-standard on Mormons that you would not apply to Jews? The very idea that you would apply it to Mormons and not to Jews indicates you're a shallow thinker or might hold to a certain repugnant ideology which you are not admitting publicly here at FR.

Admittedly, it's a peculiar and rarely heard argument but I don't think Jews would hesitate to discuss it if it came up in debate among libs or Dims or among Jews themselves. Jews have had a pretty blunt way of debating these matters for thousands of years. So I don't think this post is over the line. SJackson is free to flag the mods to remove it if I've stepped in the Big Doodoo unintentionally. And I do support the right of families to circumcise or not to circumcise for either religious or health reasons.

The post is obviously meant to get a reaction, as I noted I didn't post on the thread, and it's completly unrelated to any other threads I've posted to you on.

110 posted on 11/19/2007 8:25:55 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: jmc813
He's not going to win the damn nomination and the disproportional amount of threads on him while Giuliani has a legitimate shot at winning and permanently ruining the GOP makes us look like a bunch of retards.

No one said he's permanently ruining the GOP. He's got the potential to do some damage though.

111 posted on 11/19/2007 8:30:41 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: SJackson
Conservatives, White Supremacists, Take to Florida Streets

Claiming an 'Implicit' Racial Angle, Stormfront Leader Joins Bush Protest
by Donna Ladd
November 15 - 21, 2000

Your outrage is selective therefore dishonest. Bush never distanced his administration from this demonstration...He ignored it. Which was the prudent thing to do. Using your dishonest tactics anyone would be open for baseless smears because of who supports them. And giving neo nazis power by dismissing everyone they puport to support is no answer. Give them such a power and they will use it against your candidate.

You were here during the 2000 recounts? Where was your outrage then?

112 posted on 11/19/2007 8:30:42 AM PST by KDD (Ron Paul did not approve this post)
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To: incindiary
Good morning.
“Logically, either the threat is not so great, or Bush doesn’t seem to care much about national security. Which is it?”

What does Ron Paul’s surrender monkey antisemitism, which this thread is about, have to do with W’s incomprehensible failure to guard our borders?

Do you think the threat isn’t there? Do you think that the fact that W doesn’t plug the leak makes RP’s lunacy acceptable?

You aren’t being logical but it seems that logic flies out the window when it comes to supporting Perot. Oops, wrong election.

Michael Frazier

113 posted on 11/19/2007 8:33:34 AM PST by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: girlangler
USS COLE, remember that?

Yeah...didn't happen in Boston Harbor though did it. Do you know what our military was doing in Yemen besides being sitting ducks.

114 posted on 11/19/2007 8:35:15 AM PST by KDD (Ron Paul did not approve this post)
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To: SJackson
No one said he's permanently ruining the GOP. He's got the potential to do some damage though.

"That would be best. In the meantime, we need to send a loud and clear message to the GOP and its liberal, moderate and pro-abortion RINO wing, and other weak-kneed, hand-wringing members, if you abandon the party’s long-standing conservative principles and the party’s platform of defending life and liberty by nominating a constitution trampling abortionist, you will never ever win another election and your party dies."-Jim Robinson

115 posted on 11/19/2007 8:37:27 AM PST by jmc813 (.) (.)
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To: SJackson
Worth noting for anyone reading this, I wasn't posting on the thread, and have asked you in the past not to ping me to unrelated threads.

LOL. So you didn't want me to ping as an advisory and didn't want to respond to it on the thread where it was located but you did feel that you should drag it from that thread over to this completely unrelated thread where you could try to quote it out of context.

You're taking thread-trolling to new heights.
116 posted on 11/19/2007 8:38:20 AM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Hemorrhage; Allegra; Petronski; ejonesie22; BlackElk; elhombrelibre; dighton; mnehrling; ...
Suicide3 Ping
117 posted on 11/19/2007 8:41:19 AM PST by lormand (...proud to be an ex-democRAT)
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To: KDD

So the USS Cole was the Navy’s fault?? Do you even have an idea how rediculous and disgusting you sound?? Sailors died and you make this treasonous statement. You Kooks are beyond belief.

Pray for W and Our Victorious Freedom Fighters


118 posted on 11/19/2007 8:41:23 AM PST by bray (Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
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To: KDD
Bush II has condemned neonazi ideology on a number of occasions, and campaigned for David Dukes opponend, also a Republican, Bush II has condemned neonazi ideology on a number of occasions, and campaigned for David Dukes opponent, also a Republican, when he ran for the Louisiana legislature.

That aside, your example is outstanding though, on several levels.

As an active Paul supporter, it demonstrates that you get your news from the left, the Village Voice. And digest only what supports your preexisting bias, since the answer to your question was in the article. Don Black showed up, Don Black was rejected.

The incident wasn’t a campaign function, rather a student rally organized by Joshua Light.

Don Black turned up, what did Joshua Light do?

Accept his support like Ron Paul.

No, he turned it down. Something Ron Paul finds himself unable to do. I’d find sources, there aren’t many it was a small rally, but then I don’t need to, do I since your article states.

Unavailable for comment when this story was filed yesterday, organizer of the rally, Joshua Light, says he wants no part of racial hatred or prejudice. his event has nonetheless drawn the vocal support of the white supremacist Don Black, founder of the Florida-based Stormfront.

Describing himself as a Jewish kid originally from Philadelphia, ht says he intended only to rally Republicans and conservativescause he believes Democratic "partisans in Palm Beach are trying to take the election away."

Light has been advertising the rally on NewsMax.com, a national conservative news wire that has peppered protests all week with signs printed with its URL. On the site, Light's ad calls for "troop enforcement" from local (and distant) conservatives who feel "outnumbered by the marches led by Jesse Jackson."

The ad exhorts, "Stop the madness of anyone trying to steal this election away from the American people and what they believe in!"

Light appears to be drawing troops he never intended to invite. Black, the founder of the Internet's first "hate" site is claiming he'll help lead the rally. Black has been using his site to promote the event to the world from his home in downtown West Palm Beach, two miles from the voting action this week at the Emergency Operations Center. Black, a former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, will be there with his 11-year-old son, Derek (the webmaster of Stormfront for Kids.) Both father and son are featured in the HBO documentary Hate.com, airing this week.

The Buchanan supporter—who voted for George W. Bush to keep Al Gore out—said Wednesday that he participated in the Jackson protest Monday, which he insists was more anti-Gore than pro-Bush.was right in the middle of things," Black said with a laugh. "Not a single reporter recognized me. My ego was deflated in a way."

That is not entirely surprising. Although Black is a former deputy of KKK leader David Duke's (and actually married Duke's former wife, Chloe), he tries to stay below the media radar in his wife's hometown of West Palm Beach, where they moved in 1987. Likewise, Black said that he is counseling fellow "pro-white" extremists to show up to support Bush, but not to emphasize their controversial stances such as support for the Confederate flag.

P>I’ll repeat.

A college kid has the commonse sense to reject this support immediately, Ron Paul, weeks and months and counting.

Send ole Ron an Email, tell him how the college kid handled it,

119 posted on 11/19/2007 8:42:39 AM PST by SJackson (every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, none to make him afraid,)
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To: KDD
Do you know what our military was doing in Yemen besides being sitting ducks.

OK, impress me...


120 posted on 11/19/2007 8:43:01 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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