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Spitzer to abandon plan giving driver's licenses for illegal immigrants (Good!)
AP via syracuse.com ^ | November 13, 2007

Posted on 11/13/2007 6:14:12 PM PST by jmyrlefuller

Congressional aides say New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer has decided to abandon his plan to issue driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.

Officials familiar with the decision tell The Associated Press that Spitzer will meet Wednesday morning with New York's congressional delegation. Many of them have openly opposed the program and debate over the issue has spilled over into the presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

The aides, who spoke on condition of anonymity because no formal announcement has been made, say that after the meeting, Spitzer will say he is shelving the plan and that immigration is a federal issue to be handled by Washington.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aliens; criminal; driverslicenses; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; newyork; sanctuarycity; spitzer
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To: jmyrlefuller

“spitzer to abandon plan giving driver’s licenses for illegal immigrants...”

could it be that he changed his mind about being an effing steam roller?


121 posted on 11/14/2007 4:01:38 AM PST by ripley
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To: SueRae

“...with promises to revive same once (IF) she is crowned.”

there is no IF about it. hillary! will be crowned commissar of the u.s. by fixed ballot boxes and a large percentage of the “american electorate” that loves feisty socialists.

heil hillary! (arm extended, palm down, wait until she passes, don’t look into her eyes.)


122 posted on 11/14/2007 4:05:10 AM PST by ripley
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To: ripley
you are correct.... America will be cheated, if the media and hitlery machine can pull it off. It will be a defining moment, if done. Candidates will not longer have to run for office, those candidates will simply have to buy the media, to have the media announce that candidate as the winner. It was tried in 2000 by msnbc by calling Florida for Gore. This time the media will be more sophisticated and determined to not fail.
123 posted on 11/14/2007 4:09:08 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk. I Will Be Voting for Mr. Duncan Hunter, fellow FReepers.)
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To: krb

“The National Dems got to him. His plan became a liability too fast.”

That’s it in a nutshell. It was damaging to Shrillary, so he was told to knock it off.


124 posted on 11/14/2007 4:19:08 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: Enchante
Better yet, will she take the lead as a co-sponsor in the Senate and work hard for the passage of such a bill working toward a nationwide ban on licenses for illegals?? YES or NO, Shrillery, no waffles or flip-flops.

That would be a great question to ask, I think they've already got a canned response waiting to go should she get the first one but the second might catch her off guard. Too bad we probably won't see much more in the way of tough questioning of Shrillery since Russert was raked over the coals for daring to go against the script.

125 posted on 11/14/2007 4:44:08 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: IIntense

Yes, indeed. Furthermore, once the clerks in Erie and Niagara Counties developed the plan to report illegals to the authorities, Spitzer knew he couldn’t win.

A lot of credit should go to Congressman Randy Kuhl this morning; even though he’s a Republican (and you wouldn’t think of him as having much influence here) he’s the one who helped spearhead this opposition from Day One.


126 posted on 11/14/2007 4:54:59 AM PST by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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To: Reaganwuzthebest; Liz




SPITZ IN FREE FALL: RECORD PLUNGE IN POLL

OUT-OF-GAS ELIOT PUTTING THE BRAKES ON LICENSE PLAN
127 posted on 11/14/2007 4:57:54 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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Further report:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1925501/posts


128 posted on 11/14/2007 5:00:42 AM PST by jmyrlefuller (The Associated Press: The most dangerous news organization in America.[TM])
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To: Miss Didi

Spitzer is sleaze but at least he’s been good for the GOP. :)


129 posted on 11/14/2007 5:03:57 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

True...Go Governor Steamroller!


130 posted on 11/14/2007 5:08:47 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi

LOL———”Road Kill”——that includes all the pols stupid enough to get involved with Spitzer.


131 posted on 11/14/2007 5:13:09 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Liz
Speaking of...



RUSH: Let me do some little analysis here on timing for all of this stuff to have happened to Mrs. Clinton now. We're into the third week of a slow bleed, and it all started, I think -- I can't prove it -- but I think it all started on this program the day of the debate in Philadelphia at Drexel University when I read a story on the Associated Press talking about how radioactive the issue of driver's licenses for illegal immigrants in New York was for Mrs. Clinton. The reporter said, "This is radioactive." I said, "Well, ask her about it!" The story was about how nobody is asking her about it because it's radioactive. I said, "Ask her about it." That night she was asked about it by Tim Russert, and she flubbed it, she flip-flopped it, she blew it big time in ways that we don't need to recount. On a conference call later the next day, a bunch of Clinton supporters were discussing all this, how to stratergize around it and what to do about it, and according to the Hill newspaper, one of them even said, "Russert should be shot," and then said, "I shouldn't say that on a conference call."

Now, also, in the process of this, folks, we have dealt, perhaps, too soon to say, but we have dealt a damaging, perhaps fatal blow to Governor Eliot Spitzer's plan to give illegals driver's licenses. So we have a twofer there. We have Mrs. Clinton off the highway, the guardrails didn't protect her, she's in the SUV and it's rolling over there. She had to get Clinton out to start defending her. Then, of course, came not tipping the waitresses; then comes the planted questions; then Bill Clinton says boys are ganging up on her here; then Mrs. Clinton had to say that she was a woman and they're attacking her because she's a woman, and she says no, I can handle it, I'm tough, I'm your girl and blah, blah, blah. You know all this. Now we've got this ongoing bleed with the student and planted questions, and the Clinton, Inc., war room today warning Wolf Blitzer that he better not gang up on her, he better not do any personal attack Russert-type questions Thursday night at the debate in Las Vegas, or else. They didn't say or else, but it was a warning.

I speculated earlier that Wolf may want to beg off the debate because who's going to take care of his children, just like these diplomats in the State Department don't want to go to Iraq, because who's going to take care of their children? Wolf, by the way, get a cup. I don't know that Wolf's listening. I know he listens. If he's not listening, somebody tell Wolf to get a cup. I know people at CNN monitor this show. You people at Media Matters, I know you're listening, tell Wolf to get a cup. Well, I could send him one but I don't know if mine would fit him. But nevertheless, let's look at the timing of this, ladies and gentlemen. Here we are shortly before Thanksgiving, and all of this is happening. Up 'til the past three weeks, it has been smooth sailing. Mrs. Clinton is reporting all this marvelous fundraising superiority, magnified, big leads in the polls, wherever you look. Now, all of a sudden, this little slow bleed is happening, and it shows no signs of abating. Now, it could all abate, if she comes out of the box with a bang, big-time performance Thursday night in the debate, then, you know, these things can turn on a dime, and if she comes out and is forceful, answers these questions, then Hillary has weathered the storm. So that's a possibility.

But if that doesn't happen, if the slow bleed continues, we're going to be at Thanksgiving next week, and the news cycle over Thanksgiving, everybody tones it down, you got football games on the weekend, college and pro, families getting together, the whole mess. The news cycle sort of goes slow. Then, right after that, you get into December, and hello holiday time, and it's sort of like August and July. Those are interruptions into what I call normalcy. It's like radio ratings in July and August, you don't pay much attention to them because people are not living their normal lives. Vacations, kids are out of school, same thing in December. Plus, you know, the Drive-Bys are going to be guaranteed to be pounding us with horrible economic news. So the last thing that people are going to remember is this slow bleed of Mrs. Clinton's, unless they can do something to make big news in December, to get rid of this. Then the Hawkeye Cauci, January 3rd, right after the Christmas holidays are over!

So my point is, there's not a whole lot of time to turn this around if it continues, and if she doesn't have a boffo performance on Thursday night. You can talk all you want about Wolf Blitzer, the Clinton, Inc. can warn Wolf Blitzer all they want, but I tell you if her opponents have any gonads, they're not going to have to depend on Wolf Blitzer in order to go after her on some of this stuff. In a normal campaign, that's what would happen. In a normal debate, the moderator is just there to sound the warning bell when your time is over but, if the Breck Girl wants to get into it, roll up the sleeves, same thing with Obama -- you know, talking about Obama turning up the heat, I don't think he's got the personality right now to turn up the heat on a stove. But we'll have to see. We'll just have to watch and see on Thursday night. But the timing of this could not be worse, quote, unquote, for Mrs. Clinton.

Analysis: Timing Is Everything
132 posted on 11/14/2007 5:17:43 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: jmyrlefuller

What’s really going on here is Operation Cover Hillary’s A**.

Old Sptizer needs to keep it off the table until another day, probably after Election Day next year.

The Republicans can’t have any issues to attack Hillary on like this.


133 posted on 11/14/2007 5:26:16 AM PST by Nextrush (Proudly uncommitted in the 2008 race for president for now,, but McCain and Paul never)
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To: CaptainK

I absolutely believe that the ONLY reason he backed off was because the Clintons made him do it. To time the announcement before tomorrow’s debate is soooo Clintonian. She’ll find a way to throw it at Bush’s feet during her time at the mike, you can bett your bippy on that. I hope Edwards and Obama can come back with some tough quesions/rebuttals...because I will be thunderstruck if a tough questions actually comes from one of the moderators.


134 posted on 11/14/2007 5:28:25 AM PST by SueRae
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To: Enchante
Shrillery needs to be forced to comment on the now abandoned policy that she does support, doesn’t support, does support.....??

______________________

Hillary will comment just as "clearly"she did in the debates..."...Well, what's a governor to do?"

135 posted on 11/14/2007 6:10:00 AM PST by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: Baynative
This is juicy. Spitz abandons the plan that Hillary just said she supports.

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Good pick-up.

136 posted on 11/14/2007 6:12:45 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

Here’s a way to stop the dems wanting illegals here. COngress can and has set voting laws for candidates to federal office. If a federal law is passed that citizenship must be verified before voting for federal candidates -congress, senate and president- the dems incentive for supporting illegals disappears.

That would allow the states to issue driver’s licenses, but they couldn’t be used as the sole basis of voting. The republicans should start pushing it now so it can be implemented for the 2008 elections. A year is enough time if they really want it done.


137 posted on 11/14/2007 6:13:06 AM PST by Betty Jane
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To: Baynative

I’m starting to believe that conservatives really CAN control the national agenda...


138 posted on 11/14/2007 6:22:49 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys

So this liberal dumb*ss finally got the message. Geez WHAT is the problem with these voters in NY, Mass, NJ, Kalifornica, etc.? WHy do u keep voting in these nitwits?


139 posted on 11/14/2007 6:41:29 AM PST by Jazzman1 (l)
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To: Betty Jane

Great idea and an excellent way to put Scary Harry Reid and Pelosi on the spot. The GOP is in the driver’s seat now on this issue and should go for it. I hope they do. Some states like Georgia have already done it but in ones like NY governed by liberals it’ll never happen so it has to be at the federal level.


140 posted on 11/14/2007 6:43:46 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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