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Jackpot or Mistake? Man Sues Casino over $1.6 Million 'Jackpot'
ABC News ^ | Oct. 25, 2007 | JIM AVILA, BETH TRIBOLET,DONNA CHOI and SCOTT MICHELS

Posted on 10/25/2007 6:20:52 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

For about an hour last August, Gary Hoffman was a very lucky man.

Hoffman was playing the nickel slot machines at the Sandia Resort and Casino on an Indian reservation in New Mexico, when he appeared to hit the jackpot: the machine said he won nearly $1.6 million.

"I became ecstatic," he said.

But the ecstasy was short-lived. Hoffman says in a lawsuit filed earlier this year that Sandia refused to pay, claiming that the machine malfunctioned. Instead, he said, they gave him about $385 and a few free meals at the casino.[snip].....

[snip]Regardless, a jury may never get chance to hear Hoffman's case. Native American tribes, as independent nations, have their own court systems and can be sued in state courts only under limited circumstances. New Mexico law generally does not allow tribes to be sued in a state court over a contract dispute, Kleiman said.....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cantevenbreakeven; casino; geronimosrevenge; indiangivers; scams
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Sovereign Immunity for the tribes is total BS. They are a bunch of glorified welfare clients. Big business bought themselves a piece to run casinos and screw the public over and above the normal house percentage.
1 posted on 10/25/2007 6:20:54 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I always wonder when it says ‘malfunction voids all pays’.

How would a player know if it’s really a malfunction or just the Casino not paying? Many jackpots are probably not paid using this excuse.


2 posted on 10/25/2007 6:23:56 AM PDT by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I’ve read that under Federal law/Federal court rulings any dispute you have with an Indian casino is settled under tribal law,not under Federal law or under the laws of the state in which this casino is located.
3 posted on 10/25/2007 6:25:37 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

The more they play these games the more bad publicity they generate and the less it is that people will spend their money there.


4 posted on 10/25/2007 6:27:18 AM PDT by misterrob (Seven down, 12 more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Could be. If I went to a casino I would not go to an Indian one.


5 posted on 10/25/2007 6:27:39 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Gay State Conservative
Been hearing this more and more regards "indian" casinos. Friends won't go now to them since they say it ruins the experience knowing that if you hit, they won't pay. Also, nothing you can do, they are beyond the law were the casinos are concerned.

What to do? Stay away. Play at places where a regulatory body responsible to the public controls how the casino is operated.

6 posted on 10/25/2007 6:28:58 AM PDT by cb
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Could be. If I went to a casino I would not go to an Indian one.

Outside of Nevada and New Jersey where are you gonna find a non-Indian casino?

7 posted on 10/25/2007 6:29:47 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

If the casino does not end up making a better offer to this person they risk alienating a number of potential gamblers. From a PR campaign perspective, it would be bad business to not settle this more favorably.


8 posted on 10/25/2007 6:29:49 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Indian givers?.............


9 posted on 10/25/2007 6:30:08 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: varyouga

The machine has a disclaimer saying the max payout is $2500. I’d say a message telling you you’ve won over a million is a pretty good indicator of a malfunction.

That being said, I guess the best move is to gamble in the United States, not on an Indian Reservation.


10 posted on 10/25/2007 6:30:15 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Gay State Conservative

Mississippi, Louisiana......


11 posted on 10/25/2007 6:30:42 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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The idiots in Seattle turned down allowing slot machines in taverns. They said they didn’t want children exposed to gambling.

OK, absurd as that is with a state that has a lottery, here’s what happened.

Those slot machines would only have gone into the type of taverns that already had pull tabs, a form of gambling, not your high-class, family-type restaurants. The antis also didn’t want gambling in their neighborhood.

But here’s the real catcher: the Indians can build casinos only on ‘reservation’ land. So what they do is buy up a few buildings on a block and donate it to the ‘reservation.’ Voila, instant (FULL) gambling where they want it.

I don’t gamble and really don’t care for it. But allowing slots in taverns where they are already allowed to gamble would have put the first chink in the armor of an absurd, tax-free enterprise on lands where the people COULD IMPLEMENT SHARIA LAW, if they so choose.

The people lost. The Indians won. Their casinos continue to pop up. The idiots in Seattle think they won something. Glad I left.

12 posted on 10/25/2007 6:31:17 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Indiana has at least 4


13 posted on 10/25/2007 6:32:13 AM PDT by wordsofearnest (Thompson-Hunter not Hunter Thompson.)
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To: varyouga
I always wonder when it says ‘malfunction voids all pays’.
How would a player know if it’s really a malfunction or just the Casino not paying?

Monty Python had an insurance sketch in which a man has an accident, goes to his insurance broker who acts very, very sympathetic, but does reveal that the man purchased a "No Payment Policy" which says that no matter what happens to the man, the insurance company doesn't have to pay him. So sorry.

14 posted on 10/25/2007 6:33:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Given this, you’d have to be an idiot to play at one of those casinos.


15 posted on 10/25/2007 6:34:08 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Outside of Nevada and New Jersey where are you gonna find a non-Indian casino?

There are three major non-Indian casinos on the Ohio River in southern Indiana.

16 posted on 10/25/2007 6:34:52 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Anti-Bubba182

This guy is an ass hat .. the same type of malfunctions occur in Vegas Casinos and guess what ... they don’t pay off for the malfunction either ... he should have taken the $2500 ...

now he gets squat ..


17 posted on 10/25/2007 6:35:25 AM PDT by SubGeniusX (The People have UNENUMERATED RIGHTS ... the Govt. does NOT have UNENUMERATED POWERS)
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Many states have casinos not run by Indians

Mississippi, Louisiana, Missouri, Iowa, South Dakota (Deadwood), Illinois, Indiana, West Virginia (slots only)....

Probably missing a few, but you can avoid the Indian casinos w/out having to go to Vegas or Jersey


18 posted on 10/25/2007 6:35:29 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (FantasyCollegeBlitz.com)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Better yet, get an actual life instead of spending time feeding nickles into a machine that will give you back part of them.


19 posted on 10/25/2007 6:36:06 AM PDT by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Sovereign Immunity sure does not work for tax free tobacco sales.


20 posted on 10/25/2007 6:38:42 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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