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To: Anti-Bubba182

I always wonder when it says ‘malfunction voids all pays’.

How would a player know if it’s really a malfunction or just the Casino not paying? Many jackpots are probably not paid using this excuse.


2 posted on 10/25/2007 6:23:56 AM PDT by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: varyouga

The machine has a disclaimer saying the max payout is $2500. I’d say a message telling you you’ve won over a million is a pretty good indicator of a malfunction.

That being said, I guess the best move is to gamble in the United States, not on an Indian Reservation.


10 posted on 10/25/2007 6:30:15 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: varyouga
I always wonder when it says ‘malfunction voids all pays’.
How would a player know if it’s really a malfunction or just the Casino not paying?

Monty Python had an insurance sketch in which a man has an accident, goes to his insurance broker who acts very, very sympathetic, but does reveal that the man purchased a "No Payment Policy" which says that no matter what happens to the man, the insurance company doesn't have to pay him. So sorry.

14 posted on 10/25/2007 6:33:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: varyouga
How would a player know if it’s really a malfunction or just the Casino not paying? Many jackpots are probably not paid using this excuse.

Exactly. The definition of a win should be when the machine displays a win, malfunction or no, unless it can be proven that the player tampered with the machine. It is the responsibility of the casino the ensure that the slot machines are working properly.

33 posted on 10/25/2007 7:01:40 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: varyouga

In PA, there have been MANY times jackpots were reneged on. They say the machine was not ready to pay. That’s like saying the dealer gave out too many aces so we won’t pay. This is only one of the reasons the slots will fail in PA>


45 posted on 10/25/2007 7:28:00 AM PDT by Safetgiver (So simple, even a Muslim can do it.)
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To: varyouga

>>I always wonder when it says ‘malfunction voids all pays’.<<

It’s sort of a redundant catch-22 thing: If it pays, it means it is malfunctioning.


66 posted on 10/25/2007 10:05:33 AM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: varyouga

Well, in all honesty, I have never heard of winning 1.6 Mil on a nickle slot machine... 25cents? maybe... $1.00, $5.00? Yes. But nickles?? That be a whole lotta Nickles come pourin’ out of that machine!!


83 posted on 10/25/2007 10:55:00 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: varyouga
How would a player know if it’s really a malfunction or just the Casino not paying? Many jackpots are probably not paid using this excuse.

At one point in my career, I did the software for one of the first video poker machines ("Talking Draw Poker 5000" for the Vegas market). Slot machines installed in Nevada have to pass a rigorous series of state tests, which include having your random number generator certified my a mathematician. Software errors are generally obvious, and show up as a consistent pattern of easy payoffs. There is a subculture of players who spend their entire lives in smoky casinos trying odd combinations of buttons on every new type of machine, hoping to find a software error. When an "exploit" shows up, casino staff find about it in short order by checking the pattern of play.

If this happened to a player in Nevada, he could subpoena the casino's logs. If no error pattern is evident, the casino could not evade payment. IN any case, the bad publicity would be so massive that no sane casino would do such a thing.

Reservations, on the other hand, are out of state jurisdiction. Since NV (and possibly NJ) are the only states with a gaming enforcement apparatus, slot play in any other jurisdiction should be considered as strictly for entertainment. Reservation casinos are a sucker bet!

94 posted on 10/25/2007 2:15:41 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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