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Jackpot or Mistake? Man Sues Casino over $1.6 Million 'Jackpot'
ABC News ^ | Oct. 25, 2007 | JIM AVILA, BETH TRIBOLET,DONNA CHOI and SCOTT MICHELS

Posted on 10/25/2007 6:20:52 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

For about an hour last August, Gary Hoffman was a very lucky man.

Hoffman was playing the nickel slot machines at the Sandia Resort and Casino on an Indian reservation in New Mexico, when he appeared to hit the jackpot: the machine said he won nearly $1.6 million.

"I became ecstatic," he said.

But the ecstasy was short-lived. Hoffman says in a lawsuit filed earlier this year that Sandia refused to pay, claiming that the machine malfunctioned. Instead, he said, they gave him about $385 and a few free meals at the casino.[snip].....

[snip]Regardless, a jury may never get chance to hear Hoffman's case. Native American tribes, as independent nations, have their own court systems and can be sued in state courts only under limited circumstances. New Mexico law generally does not allow tribes to be sued in a state court over a contract dispute, Kleiman said.....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cantevenbreakeven; casino; geronimosrevenge; indiangivers; scams
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I’m betting (pun) the tribe in question pays out the amount in an out of court settlement.

Thats the smart move from a business viewpoint. Casino’s that get the rep they don’t pay when they lose don’t survive.


41 posted on 10/25/2007 7:11:33 AM PDT by Badeye ('Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....")
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To: Anti-Bubba182
The machine has a $2500 max pay out disclaimer. Regardless of tribal law I think the casino is safe.
42 posted on 10/25/2007 7:18:00 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (BUILD THE WALL, ENFORCE THE LAW! ®™ ± ‰¢ ©)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

This isn’t the first time they have ripped of patrons. They should have to post a big advertisenment stating “We are Indian givers”


43 posted on 10/25/2007 7:20:40 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Anti-Bubba182

“If I went to a casino I would not go to an Indian one.”

Agreed. First few casinos I ever visited were Indian casinos. Later I visited Vegas and disovered the Indian casinos I had been to were dumps in comparison.


44 posted on 10/25/2007 7:24:15 AM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: varyouga

In PA, there have been MANY times jackpots were reneged on. They say the machine was not ready to pay. That’s like saying the dealer gave out too many aces so we won’t pay. This is only one of the reasons the slots will fail in PA>


45 posted on 10/25/2007 7:28:00 AM PDT by Safetgiver (So simple, even a Muslim can do it.)
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To: Wolfie
There was no wager placed to win $1.6 million either. He placed a wager to win $2,500.

I think it depends then on how prominent the Max $2500 sign is. If it is easily noticed, then the guy doesn't have a case, but if it is hideen of the machine, then guy wouldn't know what the max is.

46 posted on 10/25/2007 7:29:28 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Methinks the whole “malfunction” thing is just a BS excuse to not pay up.

A legit malfunction voids the payout...but how does one prove it did or did not “malfunction?”

A malfunction is probably simply a malfunction in the casino’s bank account and their desire to part with the cash.


47 posted on 10/25/2007 7:30:58 AM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: DemEater

In this case then it’s different but in other similar cases I’ve heard, I would say the casino was screwing around not wanting to pay.


48 posted on 10/25/2007 7:32:56 AM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: -YYZ-

Even nickel machines can be part of progressive jackpot pools.

There was a payout of $7.8 million on a nickel machine in Reno, on Jan. 27.


49 posted on 10/25/2007 7:38:43 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Gay State Conservative

Pennsylvania!! Mt. Airy in the Poconos and Harrah’s? in Chester Pa .


50 posted on 10/25/2007 7:41:41 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: RockinRight

A machine with a maximum $2500 jackpot hitting for $1 million is about as obvious a malfunction as you can get.


51 posted on 10/25/2007 7:42:37 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Bogtrotter52
Later I visited Vegas and discovered the Indian casinos I had been to were dumps in comparison.

I spent about 30 minutes in Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun,both of which are Indian facilities that were recently built in Connecticut.Neither of them were dumps by any means.

52 posted on 10/25/2007 7:45:37 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Northern West Virginia....Mountaineer and Wheeling Downs. They leave the slots on for you!
53 posted on 10/25/2007 7:50:21 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda (Madeline Albright ZaPeezda)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Colorado


54 posted on 10/25/2007 7:53:42 AM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Casino rule #1: The House ALWAYS wins. Always.

TankerKC Rule #1: Don't frequent casinos.

55 posted on 10/25/2007 8:02:21 AM PDT by TankerKC (You don't have to believe everything you think.)
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To: TankerKC
'TankerKC Rule #1: Don't frequent casinos'

Good rule, the only sure winner.

56 posted on 10/25/2007 8:09:51 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Gay State Conservative
Tribal gaming..... Lots of it across the fruited plain according to this map

Clickable state links at the following showing Indian facilities state by state

57 posted on 10/25/2007 8:12:11 AM PDT by deport (>>>--Iowa Caucuses .. 74 days and counting--<<< [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Nevada and New Jersey have gaming commissions.

What do Tribes with casinos have? The Tribal Council?
They'll just vote you off the Rez.

58 posted on 10/25/2007 8:17:16 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Anti-Bubba182
The slot machine has a disclaimer that says it pays a maximum of
$2,500 and warns that malfunctions void all winnings,

He should've taken the $2500 because he didn't win the amount shown,
and does not deserve it.

59 posted on 10/25/2007 9:27:47 AM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: TankerKC

Or if you go to a casino, take the approach of, I have $50, which is what I would pay to go to a ballgame, enjoy the free drinks, and as soon as you double your money, walk away. And if you lose the $50, it was at least a few hours of entertainment.


60 posted on 10/25/2007 9:32:32 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U - Beat UGA)
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