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To: Reaganesque

You know, I hear a lot of talk about Rudy’s values, but it seems as though Romney is getting a pass on where he stood when running for Senator against Ted Kennedy and during his campaign for Governor. The only truth talk about him seems to be coming from John Mc Cain. Why aren’t the anti Rudy “Freepers” just as hot about him?


6 posted on 10/24/2007 6:19:03 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
You know, I hear a lot of talk about Rudy’s values, but it seems as though Romney is getting a pass on where he stood when running for Senator against Ted Kennedy and during his campaign for Governor. The only truth talk about him seems to be coming from John Mc Cain. Why aren’t the anti Rudy “Freepers” just as hot about him?

I haven't been at all thrilled about Romney over the past couple of months; I may or may not be able to vote for him even if he's our general election candidate.

That said, Giuliani is almost 100% authoritarian -- in his eyes, there seems to be no limit to government power. In NY, he pushed the legislature to pass a law mandating the collection and storage of all newborns' DNA; he used eminent domain to seize thriving private businesses and turn their property over to private developers; he advocated seizing people's property even if they were found innocent of any crime; his police force strip-searched tens of thousands of people who were merely accused of misdemeanors such as jaywalking; the list goes on and on and on. Romney may be disappointingly big-government from my perspective, but he's no jackboot Giuliani. In my mind, the two aren't even comparable.

33 posted on 10/24/2007 2:33:36 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Why aren’t the anti Rudy “Freepers” just as hot about him?

The anti-Rudy Freepers aren't "just as hot" about Mitt Romney because Mitt Romney has never been as extreme a liberal as Rudy Giuliani has been, and the notion that John McCain speaks the truth is a joke. Campaign literature from Mitt Romney's 1994 campaign shows that he was running to the right of Ted Kennedy in 1994. He's received some support from homosexual groups. He may have welcomed that support, but he's never pandered to their whole agenda. As a candidate for governor, he said that he'd uphold the state assault weapons ban, but his actions in office did not significantly advance gun control. He's never stood strongly against abortion, but in the decisions that he made as governor, he leaned against the pro-abortion agenda. Finally, the life that he's lived has been a good life. He's been faithful to his wife and children.

In contrast, Rudy Giuliani has been an extremist liberal on all of these positions. He fought against the ban on partial birth abortion and fought for government funding of abortions. He said on national TV that private citizens should not own handguns. He marched in gay pride parades and has appeared on TV in drag. His family life has been a mess. Do any of these things necessarily make him a bad person? Not exactly, but they show that he's completely unqualified to represent the Republican Party.

Bill

63 posted on 10/24/2007 3:53:04 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

The Mitt Machine here ignores what he said because while pondering a run for president he decided to change his positions on Abortion, and Gun Control..

I wont vote for Rudy because of his social position but at least I trust and respect him for taking difficult positions.


92 posted on 10/25/2007 9:39:50 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Thats a good point. The Anti-Rudy crowd is giving him a pass, but thats what FR has come to today. You noticed your replies they jump into why they hate Rudy so much, but not many answer your real question - why does Romney get a pass?

I have said that I have some serious issues with Romney; mainly how he let marraige get assaulted and warped while he was governor of his state. And to me, he seems like a flip flopper on a alot of issues and I am not really sold or satisfied. To me championing as a conservative social issues leader just seems like alot of hot air.

98 posted on 10/25/2007 10:00:52 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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