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1 posted on 10/23/2007 10:39:16 AM PDT by Neville72
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BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. Get elected and put those ideas in place. Talk without action is just words.


2 posted on 10/23/2007 10:41:37 AM PDT by Long Island Pete
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To: Neville72

Sounds like Fred is spot on regarding illegal immigration, just as he is with almost all his other positions.

Fred Thompson ‘08!


5 posted on 10/23/2007 10:45:15 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: Neville72
Absolutely the best plan on immigration I have seen from any of the candidates. He addresses both legal and illegal immigration issues. Superb, especially the following:

Modernize Immigration Law/Policy: Change the nature of our legal immigration system to welcome immigrants who can be economic contributors to our country and are willing to learn the English language and reduce the scope of chain migration by giving family preference in the allocation of lawful permanent resident status only to spouses and minor children of U.S. citizens, and no one else (no siblings, no parents, no adult children, etc.)

•English as Official Language: Make English the official language of the U.S. to promote assimilation and legal immigrants’ success, and require English proficiency in order for any foreign person to be granted lawful permanent resident status.

11 posted on 10/23/2007 10:50:12 AM PDT by kabar
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Fred ping!


16 posted on 10/23/2007 10:55:30 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Neville72

Border Security and Immigration Reform Plan
In the post-9/11 world, immigration is much more of a national security issue. A government that cannot secure its borders and determine who may enter and who may not, fails in a fundamental responsibility. As we take steps to secure our borders and enforce our laws, we must also ensure that our immigration laws and policies advance our national interests in a variety of areas, and that the immigration process itself is as fair, efficient, and effective as possible.

Securing the Border and Enforcing the Law

A fundamental responsibility of the federal government is to secure the nation’s borders and enforce the law. The following policies and initiatives will put the nation on a path to success:

1. No Amnesty. Do not provide legal status to illegal aliens. Amnesty undermines U.S. law and policy, rewards bad behavior, and is unfair to the millions of immigrants who follow the law and are awaiting legal entry into the United States. In some cases, those law-abiding and aspiring immigrants have been waiting for several years.

2. Attrition through Enforcement. Reduce the number of illegal aliens through increased enforcement against unauthorized alien workers and their employers. Without illegal employment opportunities available, fewer illegal aliens will attempt to enter the country, and many of those illegally in the country now likely will return home. Self-deportation can also be maximized by stepping up the enforcement levels of other existing immigration laws. This course of action offers a reasonable alternative to the false choices currently proposed to deal with the 12 million or more aliens already in the U.S. illegally: either arrest and deport them all, or give them all amnesty. Attrition through enforcement is a more reasonable and achievable solution, but this approach requires additional resources for enforcement and border security:

1. Doubling ICE agents handling interior enforcement, increasing the Border Patrol to at least 25,000 agents, and increasing detention space to incarcerate illegal aliens we arrest rather than letting them go with a promise to show up later for legal proceedings against them.

2. Adding resources for the Department of Justice to prosecute alien smugglers, people involved in trafficking in false identification documents, and previously deported felons.

3. Maximizing efforts to prosecute and convict members of criminal alien gangs, such as MS-13 and affiliated gangs. These gangs have brought unusual levels of violence to more than 30 U.S. states and have also become very active in drug-smuggling, gun-smuggling, and alien-smuggling.

4. Implementing fully and making greater use of the expedited removal process already allowed under federal law.

5. Enabling the Social Security Administration to share relevant information with immigration and law enforcement personnel in a manner that will support effective interior enforcement efforts.

3. Enforce Existing Federal Laws. Enforce the laws Congress has already enacted to prevent illegal aliens from unlawfully benefiting from their presence in the country:

1. End Sanctuary Cities by cutting off discretionary federal grant funds as appropriate to any community that, by law, ordinance, executive order, or other formal policy directs its public officials not to comply with the provisions of 8 USC 1373 and 8 USC 1644, which prohibit any state or local government from restricting in any way communications with the Department of Homeland Security regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of an alien in the United States.

2. Deny discretionary Federal education grants as appropriate to public universities that violate federal law by offering in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens without also offering identical benefits to United States citizens, regardless of whether or not they live in the state, as required by 8 USC 1623.

3. Deny discretionary Federal grants as appropriate to states and local governments that violate federal law by offering public benefits to illegal aliens, as prohibited by 8 USC 1621(a).

4. Reduce the Jobs Incentive. Ensure employee verification by requiring that all U.S. employers use the Department of Homeland Security’s electronic database (the E-Verify system) to confirm that a prospective employee is authorized to work in the U.S. Now that the technology is proven, provide sufficient resources to make the system as thorough, fast, accurate, and easy-to-use as possible.

5. Bolster Border Security. Finish building the 854-mile wall along the border by 2010 as required by 8 USC 1103. Extend the wall beyond that as appropriate and deploy new technologies and additional resources to enhance detection and rapid apprehension along our borders by 2012.

6. Increased Prosecution. Deploy the additional assets outlined above to prosecute alien smugglers (”coyotes”), alien gang members, previously deported felons, and aliens who have repeatedly violated our immigration laws much more vigorously.

7. Rigorous Entry/Exit Tracking. Complete the implementation of a system to track visa entrants and exits, as has been required by federal law for more than ten years, and connect it to the FBI’s National Crime Information Center (NCIC), in order to curb visa overstays and permit more effective enforcement.

Improving the Legal Immigration Process
The United States is a nation of immigrants. We must continue to welcome immigrants and foreign workers who come to our country legally, giving priority to those who can advance the nation’s interests and common good. Immigrants and foreign workers who play by the rules need to be rewarded with faster and less burdensome service, not delays that last years. Advancing the following initiatives will require close cooperation between all levels of government, the business community, and concerned citizens:

1. Maximize Program Efficiency. Reduce the backlogs and streamline the process for immigrants and employers who seek to follow the law. Also, simplify and expedite the application processes for temporary visas. This can be accomplished by hiring more personnel at Citizenship and Immigration Services and the FBI. Caps for any category of temporary work visa would be increased as appropriate, if it could be demonstrated that there are no Americans capable and willing to do the jobs.

2. Enhanced Reporting. Improve reporting to the government by businesses that rely on temporary workers so that the government can track whether the visa holder remains employed.

3. Modernize Immigration Law/Policy. Change the nature of our legal immigration system to welcome immigrants who can be economic contributors to our country, are willing to learn the English language, and want to assimilate.

1. Reduce the scope of chain migration by giving family preference in the allocation of lawful permanent resident status only to spouses and minor children of U.S. citizens, and no one else (no siblings, no parents, no adult children, etc.).

2. Eliminate the diversity visa lottery.

4. English As Official Language. Make English the official language of the United States to promote assimilation and legal immigrants’ success, and require English proficiency in order for any foreign person to be granted lawful permanent resident status.

5. Freedom from Political Oppression. Preserve U.S. laws and policies to ensure that the United States remains a beacon and a haven for persons fleeing political oppression, while assuring appropriate admission standards are maintained.

6. Service to Country. Place those foreign persons who are lawfully present in the country and who serve honorably in the Armed Forces of the United States on a faster, surer track to U.S. citizenship.


18 posted on 10/23/2007 10:56:26 AM PDT by TNPatriot (No arsenal ... is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. -RR)
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To: Neville72

Ho hum. If it doesn’t involve land mines and sharpshooters, I don’t care.


26 posted on 10/23/2007 11:05:13 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Islam is to Religion as Taco Bell is to Mexican food)
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To: Neville72

The only thing that’s missing is language re communicable disease, proof of ability to pay health insurance premiums and/or obligations of sponsors to provide same, AND a loyalty oath (carefully and thoroughly crafted!).


28 posted on 10/23/2007 11:07:41 AM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: Neville72

Sounds like a good plan.

Hunter and Thompson have similar plans.
Except Hunter has proven leadership in this area.

Thompson’s a good man. Hunter’s a better man.


36 posted on 10/23/2007 11:13:59 AM PDT by kidd
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While I wish he would be more specific, Fred is saying the right things about border security.

But I have absolutely ZERO confidence in our worthless, vapid, do nothing congress to put any of Fred’s ideas into action. In fact, I am convinced that if a Republican is elected NOTHING will be done about the border as long as liberals run congress. And if Hillary wins then the situation will only get much worse.

I’ve said it a thousand times... In the end the problem of illegal immigration will be solved in the streets. Our completely worthless congress will see to that.


37 posted on 10/23/2007 11:17:48 AM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: Neville72

It really sounds good...on paper!
Let’a be honest, Thompson has hired
at least one good speech writer.
WHY wasn’t any of this plan cited
the other night before the nation?
He’s saving the meat and potatoes
for his blog? How dull-witted do
they think I am?

I did hear him state that opening
remark several weeks back on live
TV. It was word for word..“A country that cannot secure its borders will not remain a sovereign nation and you cannot have national security without border security.”

Again...but being elected Preaident doesn’t
guarantee 435 Representatives in the House
and 100 Senators are going to buy into your
pledge.
Senatoras


40 posted on 10/23/2007 11:19:30 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: Neville72

Works for me.

Prediction:

By Dec. 1 Fred will lead all major national polls.


48 posted on 10/23/2007 11:23:30 AM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: Neville72

I like it. Glad to see Thompson starting to propose policy, first on SS and now this on immigration. I prefer this kind of thing to the broad position statements.


70 posted on 10/23/2007 11:38:03 AM PDT by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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ping


73 posted on 10/23/2007 11:41:34 AM PDT by gubamyster
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But Fred only offers vague generalities! </Hunterite>

I like it, though I do have a couple minor quibbles..

... Caps for any category of temporary work visa would be increased as appropriate, if it could be demonstrated that there are no Americans capable and willing to do the jobs.

We hear this last line a lot, but what does it really mean? Who does the demonstrating? Do they have to demonstrate that no American wants to do that kind of work, or just that there aren't enough? Or just that no American wants to do that sort of work at what employers are willing to pay?

It's just very vague, and sounds more like a slogan than an actual policy. Demonstrated economic need or benefit would be a much more practical test.

The other quibble is that doubling the size of the border guard will be useless unless we look at reforming how they're allowed to do their jobs. For instance, someone arrested making an unauthorized border crossing, citizen or not, ought not be afforded the same rights someone arrested walking down a city street is.

Also, and this is less a quibble than a suggestion, in increasing the capacity of detention facilities for illegals, we could do far worse than to take a page out of Sheriff Arpaio's book. Otherwise, it's bound to get awfully expensive.

Once again, those are minor issues, and the plan as a whole seems much more complete and/or workable than do the other candidates'.
96 posted on 10/23/2007 12:50:05 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.... Valor.)
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To: Neville72

STRONG!!! This is a strong immigration platform.


107 posted on 10/23/2007 1:45:27 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (Fred!)
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To: Neville72

Better late than never, Fred.


122 posted on 10/23/2007 6:26:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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125 posted on 10/24/2007 8:22:20 AM PDT by JustPiper (If you do not stand behind our Troops~ Then you need to stand in FRONT of our Troops)
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