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Bill to Condemn Genocide in Jeopardy (Pelosi ploy failing)
AP ^ | 10/17/07 | ANNE FLAHERTY

Posted on 10/17/2007 6:10:47 AM PDT by teddyballgame

WASHINGTON (AP) — A House vote to label the century-old deaths of Armenians as genocide was in jeopardy Tuesday after several Democrats withdrew their support and sounded alarms it could cripple U.S. relations with Turkey.

The loss of support is a major setback to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill, who have fiercely defended the resolution to Republicans and the Bush administration as a moral imperative in condemning the World War I-era killings of up to 1.5 million Armenians by Ottoman Turks.

President Bush called Pelosi on Tuesday to ask her not to call for a House vote on the resolution.

"The president and the speaker exchanged candid views on the subject and the speaker explained the strong bipartisan support in the House for the resolution," Pelosi spokesman Nadeam Elshami said, noting that Bush initiated the phone call.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; demfailure; flipflop; genocide; mistake; natoallies; ottoman; pelosi
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To: mc5cents

I propose an alternate resolution praising the Ottomans for the little stool on which we rest our feet while watching TV.


61 posted on 10/17/2007 7:13:19 AM PDT by Aegedius (Veni, vidi, icked-kay utt-bay.)
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To: Aegedius

ROTFLMAO!!!


62 posted on 10/17/2007 7:14:12 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: MondoQueen

“And don’t forget, they are the ones who are always worrying about our world reputation and how they are going to have to make friends around the world all over again when they get into the Whitehouse. Are they trying to make friends with Turkey? This way?”

Dubya should point that out during his presser today. Heh.


63 posted on 10/17/2007 7:14:41 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: sarasota
Do these Democrats not think of these things before they blunder ahead?

They were thinking ahead! That is, they plotted how they could usurp and poison foreign policy to cause more distrust and bad will with valuable US ally. They thought they could once again saddle the Bush administration with perceived consequential failures for they were actually responsible.

It's kind of the way Dems are trying to portray the Rush attack as tit-for-tat with the uproar about the NYT MoveOn.org ad, when the fact is, the Left was responsible for both actions. There's no tit-for-tat anywhere, just two totally out-of-bounds vicious attacks against patriotic Americans.

Dems certainly deserve zero credit for "becoming aware" of the negative affects on Turkey. They were simply caught red-handed executing their plan.

All these treasonous Dems need to be turned out at the next voting opportunity! Especially the Constitution-disregarding, 41 DemonRat Senators.

HF

64 posted on 10/17/2007 7:14:53 AM PDT by holden
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To: synbad600

Just what would you expect from San Fran Nan and Wee Harry Vegas?


65 posted on 10/17/2007 7:18:17 AM PDT by TUX
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To: teddyballgame

I strongly disagree that it failed. Most of the damage has already been done. This will just give the dims cover. What resolution?


66 posted on 10/17/2007 7:22:35 AM PDT by I_like_good_things_too
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To: juliej

How about a Bill to condemn the Spanish conquest of Peru in the middle ages?

Who the heck came up with this idea? Yes, it was a genocide, but why are we condemning it now?

Oh, that’s right, to hurt the USA.


67 posted on 10/17/2007 7:24:19 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: ladtx

Pelosi is determined to drive Congressional popularity ratings below the “impossible to hit” 10% approval level.


68 posted on 10/17/2007 7:25:08 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Aegedius

LOL!

{Don’t say it too loud!}


69 posted on 10/17/2007 7:25:11 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: melancholy

BINGO!


70 posted on 10/17/2007 7:25:51 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: teddyballgame
New logo of the democrat party leadership:


71 posted on 10/17/2007 7:29:42 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: trisham

.. I thought Bill Clinton already apologized to the Armenians for the genocide.


72 posted on 10/17/2007 7:32:20 AM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: teddyballgame; All

It’s gone, there is already NOT a majority in the House in favor. The “Pelosi ploy” again fails to produce what her Marxist backers demand of her - she’s toast, she’s failed them again - and a good thing that is.


73 posted on 10/17/2007 7:34:07 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: teddyballgame

If I may connect some dots here in my convoluted mind: one wonders if there is any tie between these activities to undermine our troops (to ‘get at’ the President) and the attempt to add veterans to the ‘to be disarmed’ list. I suspect somewhere in certain black little hearts there is a realization that having trained troops back home, might provide a monkey wrench in the hope of installing feudal rule in the United States. Can’t have that—especially when those troops know who was attempting to leave them twisting in the wind.


74 posted on 10/17/2007 7:37:53 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: pnh102

Mrs. Pelosi is on the verge of becoming one of the most ineffective and insignificant House Speakers in US history.

And that’s a good thing. I shudder to imagine what it would be
like here if shedid get her agenda through Congress.


75 posted on 10/17/2007 7:38:09 AM PDT by kalee
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To: Wuli

Second failure in the docket for today:

“On Thursday, the House of Representatives will vote on a measure to override President Bush’s veto of a massive government-subsidized health insurance entitlement expansion plan. I agree with the Democrats on one thing: This is indeed a “defining moment.”

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MichelleMalkin/2007/10/17/sinking_schip_a_defining_moment


76 posted on 10/17/2007 7:38:16 AM PDT by teddyballgame (red man in a blue state)
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To: Red Badger
Besides the supply route issue, just the promotion of this, without the passage, has been enough to give the anti-Kurd forces within Turkey enough ammunition to mass troops at the Iraqi border and start formal measures in the Turkish Parliment to authorize border crossing to hit Iraqi Kurds they feel are fostering and supporting Kurdish insurgents and guerrillas in Turkey.

When this starts, and I believe it will, it causes possible conflict for the Nato partners and I want to be sure that it is referred to with its proper name:

Pelosi's War

77 posted on 10/17/2007 7:39:57 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow
See here:

http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/10/16/newsflash-bill-clinton-worked-to-block-armenian-genocide-declaration-too/

and here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-Armenian_Genocide_timeline

1994

April 24: United States President Bill Clinton issued a news release to commemorate the "tragedy" that befell the Armenians in 1915, yet he bowed to political pressure and refused to refer to it as "genocide", despite referring to the massacre as such before being elected president.

78 posted on 10/17/2007 7:42:08 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: tsmith130
My Gawd, where do we find such stellar idiots?

I'd suggest California.

79 posted on 10/17/2007 7:44:30 AM PDT by dearolddad
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To: pnh102

I think it was the Japanese Parliament (or whatever their governing body is) that did/attempted this. IIRC, same results as this recent misguided dem attempt.


80 posted on 10/17/2007 7:47:07 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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