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To: eraser2005
Consumer Reports has about as much credibility as the New York Times itself...where this article appears.

CR hated the 4Runner...one of the best cars I ever owned.

6 posted on 10/16/2007 10:37:10 AM PDT by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out of Qurans)
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To: HardStarboard

‘CR hated the 4Runner...one of the best cars I ever owned.’

Same here with my Hummer 2.


10 posted on 10/16/2007 10:39:12 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: HardStarboard
CR hated the 4Runner...one of the best cars I ever owned.

Ditto on the 4Runner. But it is amazing that CR gave Toyota a gimme on it cars with NO data. Yeah, that's a dispassionate assesment. /s

16 posted on 10/16/2007 10:42:10 AM PDT by Obadiah
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Yeah, and they also loved the VW Passat back in 2000 when I purchased one (based largely on CR’s recommendation). I haven’t bothered with CR since.


19 posted on 10/16/2007 10:43:33 AM PDT by harmodius
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To: HardStarboard
I wasn't thrilled with the 4Runner, either. It may have excelled in a lot of ways, but I had two basic complaints about it:

1. It seemed too heavy for the powertrain (at the time, I believe the largest engine offered on it was a small V-6).

2. I never liked the idea of building an SUV on a pickup truck chassis. Not enough leg room inside (especially in the back seat).

27 posted on 10/16/2007 10:57:39 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: HardStarboard

Eh... CR does have some points - but using them to advise you on a capital purchase like a car, boat, or similar item is a mistake.

Remember, this is the same publication that actually *liked* and *recommended* the first generation Hyundai Excel, one of the worst cars ever sold in the US.

That said, I’m not really surprised on the two Toyota models they panned. The Toyota car V6 has been having oil gelling problems of late - but the same problem has been sporadically affecting all makers of late, including Mercedes, Ford, Chrysler and GM. It isn’t a very well understood phenomenon, and it’s been surprising some of the world’s best powertrain engineers.

The Toyota truck V8 problem was not as widespread as eraser would have us believe, but it certainly is a worthwhile thing to note on a survey; Toyota’s American supplier wasn’t paying attention and shipped a lot of defective cams to Toyota. The problem is a flaw in the casting for the camshaft. At this point, only about 20 trucks have had an actual failure related to this, but to their credit Toyota will be replacing the engine for free in case of camshaft failure.

Hey, Eraser, when’s Ford going to be replacing those defective 4.6s?


33 posted on 10/16/2007 11:35:16 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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