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Six inconvenient truths about the U.S. and slavery
Townhall ^ | September 26, 2007 | Michael Medved

Posted on 10/02/2007 12:41:30 PM PDT by SJackson

Those who want to discredit the United States and to deny our role as history’s most powerful and pre-eminent force for freedom, goodness and human dignity invariably focus on America’s bloody past as a slave-holding nation. Along with the displacement and mistreatment of Native Americans, the enslavement of literally millions of Africans counts as one of our two founding crimes—and an obvious rebuttal to any claims that this Republic truly represents “the land of the free and the home of the brave.” According to America-bashers at home and abroad, open-minded students of our history ought to feel more guilt than pride, and strive for “reparations” or other restitution to overcome the nation’s uniquely cruel, racist and rapacious legacy.

Unfortunately, the current mania for exaggerating America’s culpability for the horrors of slavery bears no more connection to reality than the old, discredited tendency to deny that the U.S. bore any blame at all. No, it’s not true that the “peculiar institution” featured kind-hearted, paternalistic masters and happy, dancing field-hands, any more than it’s true that America displayed unparalleled barbarity or enjoyed disproportionate benefit from kidnapping and exploiting innocent Africans.

An honest and balanced understanding of the position of slavery in the American experience requires a serious attempt to place the institution in historical context and to clear-away some of the common myths and distortions.

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To: SJackson

More good info:

Was the American Founding Unjust? (The Case of Slavery)
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a377e2d151100.htm


21 posted on 10/02/2007 1:33:33 PM PDT by donna (Whoopi on Communism: “We haven’t given it enough time.”)
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To: 50sDad

Bingo! BTTT


22 posted on 10/02/2007 1:38:05 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD! VOTE FOR FRED!!)
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24 posted on 10/02/2007 1:44:35 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: IronKros
If I remember correctly, the opening scene of the mini-series "Roots" depicts white men with nets stalking Africans.

"It's must be true, Oh, so true/'Cause I saw it on TV"

25 posted on 10/02/2007 1:45:12 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: farfromhome
Is Communism a form of slavery? Socialism?

Definitely.
Involuntarily yoking the productivity of one individual to supply the needs and wants of another individual is none other than slavery.

26 posted on 10/02/2007 1:45:21 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: dr.zaeus

Just think, all of their offspring could be enjoying the freedom and prosperity of their home continent instead of America.

Yes, slavery was an awful legacy of America, but we’ve done more to make up for it than any other entity in the world ever has.


27 posted on 10/02/2007 1:47:50 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: avacado
Every people on earth have been enslaved at one point except for Thailand...

Conquered nations were carried into slavery.

Most people have not embraced it as the central feature of their identity.

28 posted on 10/02/2007 1:52:49 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: fortheDeclaration
“One of the things that both the public and many scholars have tended to take as given is that slavery was always racial in nature — that only blacks have been slaves."

That belief is common among whites and blacks now . . . and held as an article of faith by the "Black Jews" crowd that I remember preaching in the vacinity of Times Square and the Port Authority Bus Terminal in the 80s and 90s.

If all slaves were Africans and ancient Hebrews were slaves therefore descendants of ancient Hebrews are Africans

29 posted on 10/02/2007 2:02:31 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Oratam

White men hardly survived long enough on the Guinea coast to run slave-trapping expeditions. If I remember correctly, the average lifespan of a white man was about six months. The reason was tropical disease.

Note that European colonization of Africa didn’t really get going till the late 19th century, long after colonies in much of the rest of the world, when medicine was finally able to actually treat some of these diseases.


30 posted on 10/02/2007 2:03:18 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SJackson

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31 posted on 10/02/2007 2:08:06 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


32 posted on 10/02/2007 2:10:40 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

The thing is that slavery was here long before this country was here. This piece of land was not the USA until 1776 or 1789; Take your choice. And this country abolished it in less than 100 years. In the context of history, that’s a very short time.


33 posted on 10/02/2007 2:13:01 PM PDT by isrul (Lamentations 5:2)
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To: SJackson
The Romans seized so many captives from Eastern Europe that the terms “Slav” and “slave” bore the same origins.

Bull-puckey. Latin for slave was "servus," which of course is where we get the words "serf" and "servant."

The term "slave" comes from the Middle Ages, when Germans, Byzantines, Venetians, Vikings, Magyars and Muslims all raided the Slavs for slaves.

34 posted on 10/02/2007 2:13:52 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SJackson
For slave owners and slave dealers in the New World, however, death of your human property cost you money, just as the death of your domestic animals would cause financial damage. And as with their horses and cows, slave owners took pride and care in breeding as many new slaves as possible. Rather than eliminating the slave population, profit-oriented masters wanted to produce as many new, young slaves as they could.

Incomplete. This was true of the North American colonies and states, farthest from Africa, where slaves were most expensive.

In Brazil and the Caribbean, it was cheaper through most of the slave period to work male slaves to death and buy new ones. They generally didn't want female slaves and a lot fewer were imported to these areas. Slaves in these areas were treated far more brutally than those in the American south.

35 posted on 10/02/2007 2:18:31 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SJackson

Dr. Walter E. Williams always points out that he is much better off because his ancestors were brought oer here as slaves than he would be if tehy had not been brought over here.

Even Eldridge Cleaver noted this, in a different way. When he returned to the US after several years out of country on the lam, a reporter asked him why he had returned. “I’d rather be in jail in the United States of America,” h said, “than free in any of those countries.”


36 posted on 10/02/2007 2:23:27 PM PDT by TBP
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To: SMARTY
"indigenous peoples were overrun and exploited"

That is still happening. Now we are on the receiving end. We are being overrun be aliens who speak a strange tongue and take our resources and the fruits of our labor. We may not fare as well as the pre Columbian inhabitants. We may be made physically extinct.

37 posted on 10/02/2007 2:26:40 PM PDT by isrul (Lamentations 5:2)
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To: SJackson

BTTT


38 posted on 10/02/2007 2:27:09 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
Slavery without a doubt was the worst mistake this country ever made

Slavery was inevitable in the western hemisphere's pre-Industrial societies, for the soil was rich, the distances vast, and laborers few and of uncertain dependably.

After all, people did not immigrate to the New World for the chance to work as another man's field hand.

39 posted on 10/02/2007 2:47:56 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: 2banana

This isn’t the half of it.

In the Ottoman Empire, the only work Jews were allowed to practice was that of slave trading and slave raiding. The richest area for slaves was Serbia, Poland, Ukraine, and Russia - Slavic peoples.

Slavs. That is where we get the word, slaves. And the reason Europeans hate Jews.

Both ultimately victims of Islam.


40 posted on 10/02/2007 2:49:26 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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