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UAW Workers Walk Off the Job
Wall Street Journal ^ | September 24, 2007 | John D. Stoll and Jeffrey McCracken

Posted on 09/24/2007 8:33:39 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Edited on 09/24/2007 8:57:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

DETROIT -- United Auto Workers union members walked out of General Motors Corp. factories in the U.S. Monday morning after bargaining over a new national labor agreement failed to produce a deal by an 11 a.m. deadline. It's the first time in more than 20 years that the UAW has staged a mass walkout in connection with company wide contract talks. But in a sign of the complex forces at work in the Detroit auto industry, GM shares were trading higher Monday on the New York Stock Exchange, as investors cheered signs that GM management might be willing to resist ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: automakers; generalmotors; gm; uaw; unions; unitedautoworkers
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To: wideawake

Yes, I did the math earlier, but, then I imagined trying to get by on 800 USD/month and decided it would be PAINFUL.

I think management is hoping the bunch will walk and they will risk the loss to slap them down.

Just my opinion.


141 posted on 09/24/2007 10:00:02 AM PDT by lowbuck (The Blue Card (US Passport). . . Don't leave home without it!)
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To: bpjam
Aside from a specific Congressional provision exempting them, all they are doing is practicing monopolistic principles to extort money from related employers who do not have a free market for labor capital.

Exactly. I have taken to calling unions the Labor Cartel for just that very reason.

142 posted on 09/24/2007 10:00:33 AM PDT by TChris (Governments don't RAISE money; they TAKE it.)
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To: reaganaut1

Makes me love my BMW even more.


143 posted on 09/24/2007 10:01:06 AM PDT by Cosmo (Liberalism is for girls)
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To: RabidBartender
I take that back - here was a feel-good story from 2005:

As Union Nears Win, Wal-Mart Closes Store

144 posted on 09/24/2007 10:01:22 AM PDT by RabidBartender (Al-Qaeda doesn't need an intelligence network. They have the U.S. media.)
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To: madison10
If there were a way to sneak in there without getting killed or spit on, I would

Back around 1978 or so I had to cross the line for about 3 weeks because I was in HR and a non-union position. However, even tho we had about 1,800 employees at the time, it was more like a family because everyone knew everyone. So, I was never hassled when I drove thru the line into the plant because I knew everyone so well and they knew that we didn't have any choice in the matter.

But, there were several isolated incidents of vandalism and intimidation on the part of several known jerks.

Now, you take the big auto plants and they have lots of hardcore union thugs who would not hesitate to bust your head or your car. There is now way in heck would I ever think to cross those lines as a "scab"........

Back a bunch of years ago when the Detroit newspapers went on strike, they had major problems at their Sterling Heights plant. Thugs were even throwing some kind of star shaped nails on the highways to puncture the tires of vehicles driving into the plant. I had to drive by that plant to and from work so I usually took an alternate route around that area.

145 posted on 09/24/2007 10:02:00 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I could be Agent "HT")
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To: businessprofessor

The “free assembly” is very debatable as most current unions are organized to blackmail the businesses that they work for. Many states allow the formation of unions but some state do not allow them so I am not sure if the “free assembly” argument in this case can hold any power.


146 posted on 09/24/2007 10:02:12 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: reaganaut1

I think the most important questions is why hasn’t the government bailed out GM for the retirement benefits of these brave brave workers?

/sarc


147 posted on 09/24/2007 10:03:25 AM PDT by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: PapaBear3625
Ummm...the factories aren't just in Michigan: they're in Ohio, Indiana, New York, Missouri, Delaware, etc.

List of GM factories, may not be perfect, it is Wikipedia afterall

148 posted on 09/24/2007 10:03:55 AM PDT by madison10
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To: wideawake
UAW has enough to pay every GM worker $200 a week for almost two years.

That will do wonders for their vaunted work ethic.

149 posted on 09/24/2007 10:04:56 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: IrishMike

UAW has 73,000 members

And the newer workers are going to be burdened paying for the retired workers benefits, along with the money they are losing in wages since 11am central time.


150 posted on 09/24/2007 10:05:05 AM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Member of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: Jigajog
...the UAW always went on strike during deer season.

I doubt that. Companies learned to plan factory change-overs/maintenance shutdowns during hunting season if they were in that type of culture.

(OTOH, maybe it was a labor/management conspiracy when it coincided. Company can get stuff done, while the strikers think the pinky ring wearers are "looking out for them")

151 posted on 09/24/2007 10:06:21 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: green iguana; All

“There is no contract - that’s why the UAW is striking. The UAW has been working without a new contract since Sept. 14.”

You are right, and my use of applicable terms was deficient.

I should have said that GM should say it is not going to try to renew a contract with the UAW.

mea culpa


152 posted on 09/24/2007 10:06:28 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: reaganaut1
No wonder production of cars in the U.S. has migrated to right-to-work states.

You can spot the die hard union types in my town. They drive junk cars with "Union Yes" and "Repeal right to work" bumper stickers. Most are unemployed due to the large spread in union rates vs the local labor market. The "golden age" of manufacturing with union thugs deciding who has their permission to earn a living is over in this state. Compete or get out of the way.

153 posted on 09/24/2007 10:08:41 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: madison10

If I may, allow me to shed a small light on how this scam works. The union selects a limited number of facilities to strike. Hence, the draw down on the strikle fund is minimal. No unemployment benefits are available to individuals choosing to strike. Very quickly, other sites are impacted, parts shortages, no demand for product, etc. Then comes the layoffs and plant shutdowns which was NOT a “choice” of those employes.
Thus, eligibility for unemployment benefits are legit at those sites. Result: state compensation funds now kick in supporting the initial strike a round about way.
Tha manufacturer is hammered with lost product/production and is then impalled on the stake of future higher workers comp taxes to replenish the depleted fund.


154 posted on 09/24/2007 10:09:40 AM PDT by benasawin
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To: Camel Joe
I’m sure your spouse could find work outside auto manufacturing to tide you over.

He'll get to stay home...it's my turn to go back to work. I AM the one with the bachelors. He has an associates degree, but it may not be technical enough to get employment right away.

I have not intention of getting myself killed. You should have seen what those lovely union thugs did during the last presidential election. They're a pushy lot.

155 posted on 09/24/2007 10:11:31 AM PDT by madison10
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To: wideawake

“...the UAW has enough to pay every GM worker $200 a week for almost two years.”

Well, I guess it’ll be a *2010* Corvette.


156 posted on 09/24/2007 10:12:35 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: jveritas

I think that you are referring to laws involving strikes and collective bargaining. Many states have outlawed strikes by public employees although those bans are not enforced much. Some states do not allow collective bargaining. I support laws against strikes and collective bargaining for public employees because the taxpayer is at a huge disadvantage in these situations.

If a company wants to bargain collectively, the company should not be forbidden to bargain unless the bargaining creates a monopolistic situation in the industry. I am confident that few companies would engage in collective bargaining if laws did not compel them to bargain. Unions are monopolies that are created and maintained by legislation.


157 posted on 09/24/2007 10:15:00 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: reaganaut1
The greedy corrupt Democrat unions and their members are living in the past. Their gravy train has run out of track. There is a metal stamping plant in my area {SW PA.) that will be affected by this strike. The company said they will have to close if it goes on to long. Ataway unions!!!!!!!!
158 posted on 09/24/2007 10:15:09 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Sorry Mr. BOR.)
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To: BurbankKarl

The fact that GM has 73,000 workers and 339,000+ retirees ought to tell you just how dysfunctional the company’s business climate is.


159 posted on 09/24/2007 10:15:13 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: businessprofessor
Freedom of association is fine. It is wrong for the government to protect unions by requiring workers to join a union. That is NOT freedom of association. That is coercion by government fiat. If the union is really that appealing to the workers, they should be free to join it or not. The private business should have the right to negotiate the best deal for itself. If that deal is with the union fine. If it is better with individual, non-union employees, then they should have that option as well. Keep the government's nose out of the process.
160 posted on 09/24/2007 10:15:17 AM PDT by Myrddin
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