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Thompson Leads Giuliani While Clinton’s Lead over Obama Grows (Harris Poll)
Harris Interactive ^ | September 20, 2007

Posted on 09/20/2007 2:41:32 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

After officially declaring his candidacy, U.S. Senator Fred Thompson moves ahead of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani in the race for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination. One-third (32%) of those who say they will vote in a Republican primary or caucus will vote for Thompson while 28 percent will vote for Giuliani. Much further back is John McCain, who continues his downward slide with 11 percent saying they would vote for the Arizona Senator, and 9 percent who say they would vote for former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney.

On the Democratic side, Senator Hillary Clinton continues to build on her large lead. Just under half (46%) of those who would vote in a Democratic primary or caucus would vote for the former First Lady while one-quarter (25%) would vote for Illinois Senator Barack Obama. Former vice president candidate and North Carolina Senator John Edwards is further back with 14 percent saying they would vote for him. No other candidate is in double digits.

These are some of the results of a Harris Poll of 2,372 U.S. adults surveyed online by Harris Interactive® between September 6 and 14, 2007. This survey included 769 adults who expect to vote in a Democratic primary or caucus and 504 adults who expect to vote in a Republican primary or caucus. Like all polls conducted well before an election, this should not be read as a prediction. Rather, it is a snap shot of the presidential “horse race”, at an early stage in the race.

Votes by Generation

One interesting difference is the support of the different generations. On the Democratic side, Senator Obama does better than Senator Clinton among Echo Boomers (those aged 18 to 29). While 42 percent of this youngest generation will vote for him, 37 percent will vote for her. However, in the age group that is most likely to actually vote, Matures (those 61 and older), Senator Clinton leads Senator Obama by a very wide margin (56% versus 16%). In fact, one in five Matures (21%) will vote for John Edwards, so he is ahead of Senator Obama as well in this key age group.

On the Republican side a similar difference occurs. One-third (33%) of both Echo Boomers and Generation Xers (30 to 41) will vote for Rudy Giuliani while Fred Thompson garners just 8 percent and 22 percent of these generations respectively. But, again among those generations more likely to vote, Fred Thompson is ahead. It is close among Baby Boomers (those aged 42 to 60) as one-third (33%) of this generation will vote for Giuliani and 37 percent will vote for Thompson. Among Matures, the lead is greater – 44 percent will vote for Thompson and 16 percent will vote for Giuliani. Interestingly, one in five (20%) of the youngest generation, Echo Boomers, say they will vote for the oldest candidate, John McCain.

Consideration

Before being asked to pick their first choice in the primary elections, all adults surveyed were also shown a list of all the main candidates in both parties and some other well-known Republicans and Democrats, and asked which of them they would consider voting for. They could name as many people, in both parties, as they wished. On the Democratic side, three-quarters of Democrats (76%) would consider Hillary Clinton while over half (58%) would consider Barack Obama and just under half (48%) would consider Al Gore. Among Independents, it’s a tie as 35 percent would consider Hillary Clinton and 34 percent would consider Barack Obama.

On the Republican side, just over half (52%) of Republicans would consider Rudy Giuliani and just under half (46%) would consider Fred Thompson. The next two Republicans are not even candidates as 39 percent of Republicans would consider former Secretary of State Colin Powell and 34 percent would consider current Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Among Independents, 28 percent would each consider Rudy Giuliani and Colin Powell while one-quarter (23%) would consider John McCain and 20 percent Fred Thompson. Overall, more would consider a Democratic candidate over a Republican candidate but the gap has narrowed. In May, 71 percent would consider one of the Democratic candidates while 58 percent would consider one of the Republicans – a gap of 13 percent. Over the summer this has narrowed and today the gap is just six points – 66 percent would consider a Democratic leader and 60 percent would consider a Republican leader.

So What?

Now that Fred Thompson has ended his “flirtation” with the presidential race, it will be interesting to watch as he participates in debates and is actually campaigning. Does his rise to the top hold or was it pure star power? Time will tell. On the Democratic side, it appears that the race really is Hillary Clinton’s to lose at this point as her ever expanding lead is now at 21 percent. The two running in second place for each party’s nomination currently are tops with the youngest of voters. Barack Obama feels like one of them – his youth and vitality are something they can latch onto and relate to. Rudy Giuliani is one the main figures from the one major national event that has shaped their lives so far – September 11th. They feel drawn to him because of that. But, as both camps are aware, these youngest voters actually vote in the lowest of numbers. Can either campaign translate their popularity into turnout come primary or caucus day?

(See site for actual poll breakdown)


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To: gridlock

not to mention, he’s DEAD! /s


41 posted on 09/20/2007 5:35:03 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
GO FRED GO!

FRED VETS, SIGN UP TODAY AT:

42 posted on 09/20/2007 5:38:00 AM PDT by W04Man (I'm Now With Fred http://Vets4Fred.net)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What! This can’t be! Dick Morris has pronounced Thompson not capable of campaigning effectively and several Freepers have confirmed it.


43 posted on 09/20/2007 5:40:17 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WOOHOO! My state coming around for Fred.

Good news today!


44 posted on 09/20/2007 5:45:03 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Thudd
Don’t taze me, bro!

LOL! A tagline is born...

45 posted on 09/20/2007 6:03:29 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
9 percent who say they would vote for former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney.
Ouch. Single digits for Mitt.
Does this officially make him 2nd tier yet?

 
46 posted on 09/20/2007 6:15:08 AM PDT by counterpunch (“I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush.” —Mitt Romney)
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To: traditional1
Begin prep now for a Thompson/Hunter ticket
Don't make me laugh.
Why would Fred Thompson pick a guy from the bottom of the pile for his running mate?
I highly doubt he will pick anyone from the GOP presidential competition, and if he does, believe me, it will be Giuliani.
Historically, it is extremely rare, though.
When it does happen, it is a strong runner-up often chosen for the sake of party unity and diversity, as was the case with Reagan choosing Bush. Likewise Edwards was a strong runner-up, too, though I can't explain the reasoning for Kerry choosing Edwards, other than he thought he was pretty and yearned to be near him, and political insiders thought they made a cute couple.

Hunter, however, is a proven loser, with being in dead last place and everything. He wouldn't be uniting a divided party if it's Thompson that gets the nod, he doesn't expand the GOP's electoral appeal, and he doesn't bring any sort of “gravitas” or star power to the ticket — two things Fred Thompson certainly has no shortage of himself. In a word, Duncan Hunter would bring nothing to the ticket, not a single extra vote.
And that's why he won't even make the short list of possible running mates.

 
47 posted on 09/20/2007 6:32:00 AM PDT by counterpunch (“I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush.” —Mitt Romney)
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To: counterpunch
"Hunter, however, is a proven loser"

Oh boy...."INCOMING"

The DuncanDonuts and DuncanDonettes are gonna be all over ya!

48 posted on 09/20/2007 6:38:12 AM PDT by traditional1 ( Fred Thompson-The ONLY electable Republican Candidate)
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To: traditional1
Perhaps I can appease them by declaring my enthusiastic support for Hunter as the next Secretary of Defense?   : )
That at least is within the realm of feasibility.

 
49 posted on 09/20/2007 6:46:24 AM PDT by counterpunch (“I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush.” —Mitt Romney)
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50 posted on 09/20/2007 7:07:32 AM PDT by Doofer (Fred Dalton Thompson For President)
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To: traditional1

I love Hunter. I like his son even more -— BUT, alas, in politics one “balances” the ticket.

Look for a popular Mid-West RINO to “balance” the ticket, the more Ohio-based, the better.

Preferably one that would be too old in 8 years to run for office.


51 posted on 09/20/2007 7:23:55 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian
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To: LS

And note that independents will consider voting for Rudy or Fred, but no one else on the GOP side.***

Funny, McCain leads Fred 23-20 in the indies.


52 posted on 09/20/2007 7:26:44 AM PDT by jmeagan (Our last chance to change the direction of the country--Ron Paul)
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To: ontap

What! This can’t be! Dick Morris has pronounced Thompson not capable of campaigning effectively and several Freepers have confirmed it.******

Seems like most of Fred numbers come from the Geritol generation. They will wake up before the primaries.


53 posted on 09/20/2007 7:29:08 AM PDT by jmeagan (Our last chance to change the direction of the country--Ron Paul)
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To: Jim Noble

Quit spamming this BS. If I see it again, I’m gonna start hitting the abuse button.


54 posted on 09/20/2007 7:46:50 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (John Cox 2008: Because Duncan Hunter just isn't obscure enough for me!)
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To: OCCASparky

Every one that kerry won, and with ease, plus one more and thats the end of the story.
She will pick up that one more with a good choice for VP that will grab a SW state with hispanic appeal.

If Ohio flips, the GOP is probably toast.
And for a very long time.

Fred needs a VP who can make a battlefield out of a contested state and bring those electoral votes to the table.


55 posted on 09/20/2007 7:51:15 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952
Sorry, there are a lot of "battleground" states left over from 2004 which will NOT go Dem simply because Hillary is on the ticket. Too many people despise this woman and will turn out in record numbers SPECIFICALLY to keep her out of the White House.

A few "Blue" states Thompson (or whoever the GOP nominee will be) that can be won:

Pennsylvania
New Hampshire
Oregon
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Michigan

Get the idea? The presidency is VERY winnable, but turnout, as usual, is the key. The backlash against the Dem-controlled congress is one reason GOP and swing voters may turn out in higher than usual numbers, provided that GOP candidates learned their lesson from 2006.
56 posted on 09/20/2007 8:13:23 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Quit spamming this BS. If I see it again, I’m gonna start hitting the abuse button.

Go ahead - make my day.

I don't think Fred Thompson can be elected President, and I've posted my reasons why. That's not spam, it's an opinion - and in my nine years and three months here, opinions supported by reasoning have NEVER been considered spam or abuse.

I'm not using this site to promote any candidates that Jim Robinson disapproves of, and I won't.

So go ahead - hit the abuse botton all you want.

57 posted on 09/20/2007 8:18:30 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Quit spamming this BS. If I see it again, I’m gonna start hitting the abuse button.

Go ahead - make my day.

I don't think Fred Thompson can be elected President, and I've posted my reasons why. That's not spam, it's an opinion - and in my nine years and three months here, opinions supported by reasoning have NEVER been considered spam or abuse.

I'm not using this site to promote any candidates that Jim Robinson disapproves of, and I won't.

So go ahead - hit the abuse button all you want.

58 posted on 09/20/2007 8:19:08 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: jmeagan

I know man Ron Paul will break out any minute now!!!


59 posted on 09/20/2007 8:23:44 AM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Always Right

You left off the fact he is dead, cancer got him several weeks ago and his bimbo Trophy wife can’t figure out how she will survive without any job skills...


60 posted on 09/20/2007 8:26:49 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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