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Microsoft Suffers Stunning EU Antitrust Defeat
Reuters India ^ | 9-17-07 | David Lawsky and Michele Sinner

Posted on 09/17/2007 6:13:24 AM PDT by webschooner

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To: N3WBI3
4) The days of spammers probing for legit address in the manner you described ended at least five years ago. Im sure there is a straggler out there but it takes far more time and effort for them to work that way than it does just to keep sending out to huge list.

There's more than a few stragglers. I could show you recent logs where this accounts for several thousand messages an hour.

141 posted on 09/18/2007 10:31:37 AM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138
There's more than a few stragglers. I could show you recent logs where this accounts for several thousand messages an hour.

Please note thie part of my post "The days of spammers probing for legit address in the manner you described ended at least five years ago.". I did not say the days of bulk spammers is over I said they don't generally send from legit addresses loking to refine their list because now that practice is not just unethical but *illegal*.

How do you know that the address in the header of the spams you're getting were legit? did you try to test it? how do yo uknown they are probing for addresses or, as I said, just sending out to alphanumeric combinations of addresses.

If you're really getting hammered you could do the world a fovor by reporting the offending mail addresses to the RBL..

142 posted on 09/18/2007 10:47:10 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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Basically, doing a DNS lookup was too costly. Legitimate mail was being delayed. The current rule is one recipient who has an actual account.

Pass that test and the message will be scanned for other kinds of spam. Fail it and into the bit bucket.


143 posted on 09/18/2007 11:03:32 AM PDT by js1138
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To: webschooner

Meanwhile the monopoly OPEC says it’s “done enough” to meet world oil demand.


144 posted on 09/18/2007 11:05:56 AM PDT by JPJones
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To: js1138
Basically, doing a DNS lookup was too costly. Legitimate mail was being delayed. The current rule is one recipient who has an actual account.

Ok, so lets step back and ask: then why did you seem to have a problem with the idea of mail servers being responsible for filtering? I though your complaint about legit mails with a typo in the to address was a problem?

Pass that test and the message will be scanned for other kinds of spam. Fail it and into the bit bucket.

Sounds like a boiler plate template of how it should be done..

145 posted on 09/18/2007 11:07:50 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: utherdoul

And I thought I was the only one who thought DOS was wonderful. Bless you!


146 posted on 09/18/2007 11:14:36 AM PDT by Grams A
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To: js1138
There are all kinds of approaches to filtering spam, but the most common kind of spam involves sending messages with 50 or more recipients, names drawn from a dictionary of common first names.

Yup. My email address, which I've had for over 10 years now is a three-letter acronym. I get spam from everyone on the planet. Good thing my forwarding service has excellent spam filtering.

147 posted on 09/19/2007 6:39:33 AM PDT by zeugma (If I eat right, don't smoke and exercise, I might live long enough to see the last Baby Boomer die.)
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To: N3WBI3
root@Linux telnet mail.somedomain.com 25

Any particular reason why you're running as root to telnet to another host? :-) 

148 posted on 09/19/2007 6:39:48 AM PDT by zeugma (If I eat right, don't smoke and exercise, I might live long enough to see the last Baby Boomer die.)
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To: zeugma

In this thread I am copying from web pages and doing things myself...

Sudo is my friend and I seldom do anything as root ;)


149 posted on 09/19/2007 7:56:33 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: Rate_Determining_Step
If you have ANY doubt about the tactics used by MS to control the market read this.

Caldera Statement of Facts

150 posted on 09/19/2007 6:32:16 PM PDT by amigatec (Carriers make wonderful diplomatic statements. Subs are for when diplomacy is over.)
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