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1 posted on 09/09/2007 6:36:38 AM PDT by shove_it
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It was a “piece of junk” that people could afford to buy however. Generally speaking, automobiles prior to the T were lovingly constructed one at a time by hand, sparing no expense on the appointments and were pretty much exclusively affordable only to the very, very rich. Think 16 cylinder Duesenbergs. Think Testarossa or Lamborghini being the only cars available pricewise. Sure, nice car but hardly suitable for the masses.

Facts without context are worse than lies, almost.


2 posted on 09/09/2007 6:41:06 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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All yugos came with rear window defrosters so your hands didn’t get cold when pushing it in the wintertime. :-)


3 posted on 09/09/2007 6:42:29 AM PDT by vietvet67
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forget the article. let's weigh in.

Renault LeCar has to be in that list somewhere.

5 posted on 09/09/2007 6:46:03 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I'm an endangered species. And I don't want your protection.)
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Mostly he trashes the Model T for starting people buying cars. That’s his real beef.

A bit of leftwing hysteria thrown in, typical CNN.


6 posted on 09/09/2007 6:46:45 AM PDT by Tolsti
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So the 1995 Ford Explorer is a worst car because it made SUV’s popular with soccer Moms? And if there were fewer of them, it would be a great car?


7 posted on 09/09/2007 6:47:04 AM PDT by OCC
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I forgot to add, how can there be a “worst cars of all time list” and the Fiero NOT be on it? I felt snubbed. ;)


8 posted on 09/09/2007 6:47:29 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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Any car with the word “Fiat” on it.


9 posted on 09/09/2007 6:47:32 AM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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Model T — whose mass production technique was the work of engineer William C. Klann, who had visited a slaughterhouse's "disassembly line" — conferred to Americans the notion of automobility as something akin to natural law, a right endowed by our Creator. A century later, the consequences of putting every living soul on gas-powered wheels are piling up, from the air over our cities to the sand under our soldiers' boots.

Worst thesis ever, not the worst car. Restated the argument is that the Model T was one of the worst cars ever because it was so affordable that it made everyone get or want a car. This led to war and environmental problems. Therefore the Model T was so attractive to consumers and so affordable that it was one of the worst cars ever. Time magazine publishes drivel.

10 posted on 09/09/2007 6:48:54 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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Here's the rub for Time:

"Well, that's just the problem, isn't it? The Model T...conferred to Americans the notion of automobility as something akin to natural law, a right endowed by our Creator. A century later, the consequences of putting every living soul on gas-powered wheels are piling up, from the air over our cities to the sand under our soldiers' boots.

I wonder if the author walks to work, or eats food carried by hand from the farm fields to home. BTW - I've spent time in Afghanistan, and my two oldest kids have done tours in Iraq. Is it just me, or is the author's concern for the sand under my boots less than sincere?

13 posted on 09/09/2007 6:52:10 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I'm agnostic on evolution, but sit ups are from Hell!)
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The author’s bio is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Neil

I found no automotive knowledge there.

18 posted on 09/09/2007 6:56:06 AM PDT by shove_it (nonilligitimus carborundum)
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we have to consider the source:
TIME and Dan Neil, Pulitzer Prize-winning automotive critic and
syndicated columnist for the Los Angeles Times,


Los Angeles is loaded with Democrats/Lieberals that want the
unwashed masses pushed onto public transportation (busses and
the Metro...so they can drive Hummers, Bugattis, and other
gas-guzzling (and wonderful!) vehicles.

As for the Model T:
1. Affordable
2. Readily repairable
3. Not just a car but a farm implement (using the Power Take Off to
power farm equipment

Failing to name the Model T as the Volkswagen Bug of it's day
(only decades ahead of time)...Dan Neil was either having a
bad day or on an excess of drugs.
22 posted on 09/09/2007 6:57:28 AM PDT by VOA
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The worst 50 cars with a liberal slant by the writers. Here's what they say about the 1995 Ford Explorer:

In its very success, the Ford Explorer is responsible for setting this country on the spiral of vehicular obesity that we are still contending with today. People, particularly women drivers, discovered that they liked sitting up high. Even though more fuel-efficient minivans do the kid- and cargo-hauling duties better, people came to prefer the outdoorsy, go-anywhere image of SUVs. In other words, people became addicted to the pose. And, as vehicles got bigger and heavier, buyers sought out even bigger vehicles to make themselves feel safe. Helloooo Hummer. All of that we can lay at the overachieving feet of the Explorer.

25 posted on 09/09/2007 6:59:00 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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Typical Time crappola.


27 posted on 09/09/2007 7:01:12 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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Dumb article.

The definition of "worst" seems to be "the writer personally dislikes it."

The Excursion? Please. There was nothing wrong with that vehicle.

28 posted on 09/09/2007 7:01:40 AM PDT by B Knotts (Tancredo '08!)
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1971 Plymouth Cricket.

THREE transmissions in 4700 miles. Massive electrical problems. Mercifully put to death with only 11,000 miles


29 posted on 09/09/2007 7:02:23 AM PDT by ulm1 (“There are scandals that need to be addressed. Republicans address them, Democrats re-elect them.”)
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Looks like they forgot the Aurora.
36 posted on 09/09/2007 7:13:36 AM PDT by clyde asbury (One more quirky, cliched phrase)
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Any list of the worst cars without the Vega shouldn’t be taken seriously. Those cars were made of compressed rust just waiting for the paint to fall off.


37 posted on 09/09/2007 7:14:39 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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Ever since those fools allowed the serfs to talk back the world went to hell.


38 posted on 09/09/2007 7:14:59 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (F' Akalla - D' Ethtislam)
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50 more reasons why nobody reads Time.
39 posted on 09/09/2007 7:15:19 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Michael Moore bought Haliburton)
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I read up on the Bricklin, one of the first cars on the list I looked at new. The dealer was stuck with a couple of them.

At the time, I was used to working with a jackhammer and could pick up 300 lbs of rock and walk away with it.

Anyway, I got in, the door would not latch because the battery was low, and it would not open either (same reason). After discussing whether we could get jumpers on the battery and other options with the dealer, I pulled the safety pin and tried to open the door from the driver's seat. Uh uh. No go. It took the dealer, a friend, and my own efforts to get the door open far enough to get out.

Keep in mind, this was a 'safety' car and a snug fit to boot, so there was not much room for the driver to move around when you were behind the wheel.

As for being slow, well, as I recall more than a few were wrecked at speeds exceeding 100 mph, and the drivers walked away from the wrecks. So they were fairly safe in a wreck, (as much as that makes sense). It was another 20 years, for instance before another manufacturer was touting side beams in the doors, even though the later models were much lighter in construction.

While some aspects were positive (heavy construction, midships engine) others outweighed them. (Handling, getting in and out).

They were pretty expensive, too (about $10,000, iirc) when other cars were going for $5-7,000.

I noted a few cars in the article which were marketing disasters, but did not really belong on the list of the writer's prejudices had the article really dealt with automotive quality.

Some were only guilty of being ahead of their time.

An interesting compendium, but far from what I would consider an accurate list of the "worst".

For instance, I did not see the Ford Taurus, for its transmission woes or spare parts compatibility (You needed to know the VIN to tie down which week the car was made to get some of the right replacement parts.) I guess the Taurus was too politically correct to make the cut.

43 posted on 09/09/2007 7:18:08 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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