Posted on 09/02/2007 3:41:26 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
As the vote tallies were announced at the Texas Republican straw poll Saturday, at least one supporter of Rep. Ron Paul of Lake Jackson couldn't contain his frustration.
"Fix!" he yelled from the back of the ballroom at the Fort Worth Convention Center. "There's no way."
The congressman put a great deal of effort into the event in his home state, even paying to bus in supporters. They seemed to be the largest force in town. So it was a disappointment to those supporters when he came in third.
Some were convinced that Dr. Paul won.
"The results are totally wrong," said Jason Scarbrough, a Paul supporter who lives near Houston. "There were 10 times as many Ron Paul supporters here than anyone else had. There's just no way."
Though there were clearly more Paul people at the straw poll event, the congressman with the libertarian leanings had a much smaller base of support among those who could vote.
Even Dr. Paul conceded that he didn't think he could win.
"They made it very restrictive," Dr. Paul said at a rally Friday night. "But we're trying to build the party. If they want us to build the party, we can."
Saturday's vote disappointed Kathy Massey, a 45-year-old Houston woman who works in the petroleum industry.
She described Dr. Paul as a man of integrity who wants the Bill of Rights restored – and a political titan.
"Las Vegas oddsmakers say he's the only one who can beat" Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton, Ms. Massey said, without offering proof.
(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...
Whatever happened to fighting wars? Building schools and hospitals are not the jobs of the military.
Uh, because he’s the Dennis Kucinich of the GOP. Dennis supports 9/11 truthers, Paul supports 9/11 truthers. Dennis is for cut and run from Iraq, Paul is for cut and run from Iraq....do you want me to go on?
“What I’m saying is that straw polls Paul won, they were dismissed as being “nothing.” But polls Hunter or Romney or Fred won, it’s the gospel. If ever there was such rank hypocrisy here on FR, it’s on the Paul threads.”
What you are missing is that we are making fun of Paul supporters for making a big deal of some fixed straw polls. Now others win and the Paulists are being taunted with sarcasm.
The straw polls meant nothing when Paul won and they mean nothing now. Paul won’t win any states. He probably won’t get more than 5% in any primary.
Your ‘traditional sense’ comment is somewhat valid. I would ask if you thought the shrinking of the planet might make some of the traditional tenets somewhat untenable at this jucture though.
When you’ve got people from Middle-Eastern nations traveling to Europe and the U.S. peddling the terrorist dogma, aren’t we somewhat compelled to respond?
We were attacked by terrorists. Just because they weren’t a viable government’s leadership, isn’t it just as necessary for us to respond? Should we have waited until more attacks before responding?
It seems to me after the Cole, the embassy bombings, the barrak bombins, at some point we had to stand up and say, “Enough is enough!” Do you disagree with that?
In light of 09/11, you don’t think going after the terrorists where ever they were was a conservative action?
I ask this, because I do. And I happen to think that Saddam Hussein was a figurehead for terrorists, even if he wasn’t “THE” figurehead.
He paid out $25, to the families of suicide bombers in Israel. He violated the restrictions placed upon him by the international community. He made public statements calling for the destruction of the U.S.
I’m not sure how many cheeks some people think the U.S. should have turned before taking serious action.
What are your thoughts on this?
Ron Paul makes his political position clear on 9/11 truth
Mods, can you please delete the previous post as it violates the FR rule of lying about candidate's record?
George's, Ringo's Supporters Unavailable For Comment
The whole point is to act preemptively so that we don’t have to fight them.
Actually, yes I do want you to go on. By going on and using links to bring validity to your comments, you’ll be doing folks a service.
We can’t all be here every day. We can’t all keep up on the candidates moment by moment. If you have links and can validate the thoughts you express here, I support you going on as long as you like.
I expected a better comment from the biggest Bush butt-kisser on this Forum.
Play the record backwards... “Paul is dead.” ;-)
Correction: “He paid out $25,000...”
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What...you mean that all the other candidates don't have articles that put the little zinger "without offering proof" at the end of their supporter's comments?
I was with Paul on taxes and getting rid of the DOE, but I just can’t bring myself to vote for someone that doesn’t understand the Islamic threat that we face.
Like I said, I have some reservations about Paul on foreign policy. I would like for him to call Islam what it truly is. Where I agree with him is that we shouldn't be meddling in the affairs of those Middle Eastern countries. Look, that region has been in turmoil since the dawn of time. You're talking centuries-old conflicts and ideas here. After the surge is complete and Iraq is stabilized, we should leave. We should secure our own borders and end immigration from Muslim countries here. Let them stew in their own juices.
If Paul was President, I wouldn't doubt for a second that he would declare war and fight like he meant it. He wouldn't be consulting with the UN or trying to appease "the international community." He'd declare war to Congress and fight it. So FReepers calling Paul a "cut-and-runner" or "being in bed with the terrorists" are really disingenious, considering that Paul has been a staunch supporter of the military up until Iraq.
I will agree that RP doesn’t go with the conspiracy nutjobs on 911 BUT he DOES blame the US for the attack. He says we need to talk to the Mooselimbs and understand their point of view.
Sorry, that alone disqualifies him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuX73Ixqtbg
Ron Paul meets Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth
http://www.911blogger.com/node/6503
Congressman Ron Paul on 9/11
http://prisonplanet.tv/audio/170107paul.mp3
See my post #59
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