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'We have broken speed of light'
Telegraph ^
| 8/16/07
| Nick Fleming
Posted on 08/16/2007 10:15:43 AM PDT by LibWhacker
A pair of German physicists claim to have broken the speed of light - an achievement that would undermine our entire understanding of space and time.
According to Einstein's special theory of relativity, it would require an infinite amount of energy to propel an object at more than 186,000 miles per second.
However, Dr Gunter Nimtz and Dr Alfons Stahlhofen, of the University of Koblenz, say they may have breached a key tenet of that theory.
The pair say they have conducted an experiment in which microwave photons - energetic packets of light - travelled "instantaneously" between a pair of prisms that had been moved up to 3ft apart.
Being able to travel faster than the speed of light would lead to a wide variety of bizarre consequences.
For instance, an astronaut moving faster than it would theoretically arrive at a destination before leaving.
The scientists were investigating a phenomenon called quantum tunnelling, which allows sub-atomic particles to break apparently unbreakable laws.
Dr Nimtz told New Scientist magazine: "For the time being, this is the only violation of special relativity that I know of."
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To: wolfinator
Do photons have mass? No. Photons are Baptists.
To: 1L
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posted on
08/16/2007 10:31:14 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor..................)
To: TommyDale
63
posted on
08/16/2007 10:31:31 AM PDT
by
TommyDale
(Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
To: RightWhale
Explain, please?
Einstein was wrong? Misinterpreted? Lied?
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posted on
08/16/2007 10:31:41 AM PDT
by
Lee'sGhost
(Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
To: COBOL2Java
"The other day I put instant coffee in my microwave oven ... I almost went back in time ..."
- Steven WrightI bought some powdered water, but I didn't know what to add.
65
posted on
08/16/2007 10:32:05 AM PDT
by
GunRunner
(Come on Fred, how long are you going to wait?)
To: LibWhacker
Make it so!
To: Clump
The scientists were investigating a phenomenon called quantum tunnelling, which allows sub-atomic particles to break apparently unbreakable laws.
This is many decades old. Einstein coined the phrase I used in post#3. Some textbooks describing this phenomenon have since decayed from age no doubt. This is not news. Peculiar, but nothing new.
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posted on
08/16/2007 10:32:08 AM PDT
by
kinoxi
To: wolfinator
Do photons have mass?I'm pretty sure they don't, which makes the E=MC^2 equation irrelevant here. The whole basis for saying that nothing can travel faster than light is assuming that thing has mass.
To: RayStacy
Wow! Thats almost as fast as Teddy Kennedy driving off a bridge.
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posted on
08/16/2007 10:32:31 AM PDT
by
TYVets
(God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
To: TommyDale
Hogwash, I agree....See my post #51....
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posted on
08/16/2007 10:32:47 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor..................)
To: LibWhacker
Yeah, and I'll still have someone tailgating me!
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posted on
08/16/2007 10:32:49 AM PDT
by
ditto h
To: agere_contra
Aye. Gravity is faster than the speed of Light in a vac.
72
posted on
08/16/2007 10:33:08 AM PDT
by
Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: mnehrling
ocated at two places at the same time- quantum physics says this is a possibilityBut never at the same place at the same time.
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posted on
08/16/2007 10:33:24 AM PDT
by
numberonepal
(Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
To: mnehrling
I wonder the photon traveled between the two prisms or if it was in both prisms at the same time (ie, located at two places at the same time- quantum physics says this is a possibility.) You are correct. The photon would have to be in the second prism before the photon left the first prism. I do not think it could be physically measured.
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posted on
08/16/2007 10:33:27 AM PDT
by
From One - Many
(Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
To: mnehrling
Sounds more like teleportation.
75
posted on
08/16/2007 10:33:35 AM PDT
by
Lee'sGhost
(Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
To: agere_contra
I thought the speed of gravity was C plus or minus 1 percent?
To: traderrob6
So smart yet he cant master elementary grammar.Yes, I thought every German knew the verb at the end to put.
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posted on
08/16/2007 10:34:19 AM PDT
by
PAR35
To: Red Badger
Even assuming light hits the second site first, at only 3 feet apart there is room for error in calculations. Sort of hard to believe that they could measure so accurately at 3 feet.
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posted on
08/16/2007 10:34:30 AM PDT
by
TommyDale
(Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
To: LibWhacker
At that speed won’t you overdrive your headlights?/snicker.
To: camerakid400
You can’t see it — it was black light.
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posted on
08/16/2007 10:34:52 AM PDT
by
Lee'sGhost
(Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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