Posted on 08/02/2007 6:45:04 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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Actual poll question:
Do you support the murder conviction of squad leader Sgt. Lawrence Hutchins in the Hamdania case?
Yes
No, too strong
No, too lenient
Go to the North County Times/The Californian link provided on this FR post.
Scroll down a bit and look for the poll on the right hand side.
Vote your choice.
(Excerpt) Read more at nctimes.com ...
Yes (7 Votes, 29%)
No, too strong (16 Votes, 67%)
No, too lenient (1 Votes, 4%)
God Bless the Marines, soldiers, sailors and airmen who serve America and who put themselves in harms way.
Related news article:
“Jury convicts Marine of murder”
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/08/02/news/top_stories/1_01_458_1_07.txt
Voted and BTTT.
“Charging Kurtz with murder in this place is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indianapolis 500.”
Apocalypse Now
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In uniform or out, a crime is a crime.
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No, it’s a miscarriage of justice?
Moral relativism raises it's ugly head once more.
Know any good lawyer jokes?
That's a trick question. Everyone knows there is no such thing as a good lawyer.
If you are familiar with the UCMJ, it is very clear about a soldiers conduct. It does not discern between combat and non-combat. I have heard no implication he did not get a fair trial.
Hopefully Sgt. Hutchins will be released for time already served and that the panel didn’t convict him of premeditated murder for that reason.
Regardless of guilt or innocence to this particular Marine, I just know that this does not work well for recruitment. A young man or woman hearing the news that a Marine or and of our Military has been found guilty of murder while fighting in Iraq or any other country they are in, would make that potential recruit to rethink signing up because something like this could happen to them.
Nothing like fighting a PC War.
Absolute bullshit
ZERO ballistic evidence
ZERO outside witness testimony
ZERO identification of the body with 3 different stories of how the alleged victim was previously injured, NONE of which matched the body received
3 Marines who previously pleade out in the case came forward in Sgt Hutchin’s case and TOLD THE JURY that NCIS coerced their testimony!!!
I’m no lawyer and wasn’t at the court-martial but the Judge did not allow testimony as to the identity of the victim. They’re not even sure who was killed and it was contended by the defense that he was an insurgent.
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Voted, no too strong.
Just voted.....84% NO, TOO STRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He had been identified as Hashim Ibrahim Awad, 52, but the name was dropped after defense attorneys contended the identity was not conclusive.
Prosecutors said squad members tried to cover up the killing by planting a shovel and AK-47 by his body to make it look like he was an insurgent planting a bomb.
Several witnesses testified the plot was born out of frustration after suspected insurgents kept evading prosecution.
The Iraqi may not have been innocent, but maybe he was. In the fog of war I could easily be convinced to side with the Sgt, but this was not the fog of war. It was not the soldiers place to be his judge and jury. Frustration is not a rationalization to kill.
He was found guilty by a jury of his peers.
Just Asking... wrote on Aug 2, 2007 3:03 PM: " A simple question: Did Hutchins demonstrate the Marine Corps values? Honor: requires each Marine to exemplify the ultimate standard in ethical and moral conduct. Courage: The moral strength, the will to heed the inner voice of conscience, the will to do what is right regardless of the conduct of others. Committment: combination of (1) selfless determination and (2) a relentless dedication to excellence. "These three values make up the bedrock of the character of each individual Marine. They are the foundation of his Corps. These three values, handed down from generation to generation, have made U.S. Marines the Warrior Elite. The U.S. Marine Corps: the most respected and revered fighting force on earth." "Seems a lot of people want to throw that away
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