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Scouts banned from eating burgers and bangers - because of religious beliefs
Daily Mail ^ | 2nd August 2007 | staff

Posted on 08/02/2007 10:07:51 AM PDT by foolscap

Youngsters celebrating the 100th birthday of the scouting movement have been banned from eating burgers and bangers - because they might offend youngsters of other religions.

And the scouts have been banned from having campfires and instead have to sit round a potplant - because of safety fears.

The traditional camping food made way way for vegetarian dishes - a hundred years after Scout founder Lord Baden-Powell took his first group of 20 boys to the great outdoors.

The 1907 boys caught rabbits and cooked them on an open fire on Brownsea Island, in Poole Harbour, Dorset.

But in 2007, as 300 Scouts travelled back to the site where their movement was born, meat was whipped off the menu in favour of vegetarian cuisine because it might offend the different faiths of youngsters from 162 countries if it wasn't Halal or Kosher.

And wood and flint were dropped for safer gas stoves because of the fire risk to plant and wildlife.

Instead Scouts sat around a pot plant.

Clare Haines, spokesman for The Scout Association, said: "It was really to do with religion that we were not able to provide sausages and burgers and all that kind of food.

"We have been very careful though to make sure food is provided to everybody's tastes and beliefs, so no one feels left out. They enjoyed their vegetarian meals, especially vegetable chilli, fresh salads and jacket potatoes."

She said camp fires were banned on the island, owned by the National Trust, because of a devastating woodland blaze 30 years ago.

One adult at the Brownsea Island site revealed: "The boys couldn't sit round a traditional camp fire with sausages on sticks. It seems crazy, but what can you do?

"Instead groups sat around a 3ft bay tree in a plant pot and exchanged stories."

More than 40,000 youngsters from 162 countries at the same time gathered at Hylands Park in Chelmsford, Essex, for a two-week World Jamboree, which draws to a close next week.

Scouts at this jamboree, however, were allowed to tuck into meat as Halal and Kosher meat was on offer.

They watched 300 fellow Scouts on Brownsea Island renew their vows to build a tolerant and peaceful society at the poignant Sunrise Ceremony, on Brownsea Island, via a live satellite link on Wednesday.

The ceremony was broadcast around the globe to 28 million youngsters.

One Scout who took part in the ceremony said: "I was really disappointed we couldn't have what we liked to eat.

"I thought we should have been given the choice. And not being able to light fires was silly. I go camping with my mum and dad and we always have a small fire. It's not hard to be safe if you're sensible."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; britain; bsa; dhimmitude; england; greatbritain; infiltration; jamboree; liberalism; pc; scouts; sheeruttermadness; uk; unitedkingdom; worldjamboree
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To: foolscap

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101 posted on 08/02/2007 2:01:06 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: foolscap

Please tell me this is satire. This “you can’t do anything that offends my religion” garbage has gotten old. Fast.


102 posted on 08/02/2007 2:05:37 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: Wil H

Hey, don’t ask me... Maybe I misinterpreted. But she should I should replan my whole menu around ONE vegetarian friend?!! She was offended that I would just make dishes for my friend to eat and not change the whole meal... :(


103 posted on 08/02/2007 2:06:17 PM PDT by Kaylee Frye
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To: Sue Perkick

Yet I do find the pot plant circle time interesting.

And what the heck’s a banger?


104 posted on 08/02/2007 2:07:16 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: foolscap
The New Boy Scout Anthem:

A scout is a young man who lives by a code,
To protect his honor, and take the high road,
He faces temptation, but doesn't give in,
The scout law gives him the foundation to win.
A scout is trustworthy, he's loyal, true blue,
Helpful, friendly, courteous to me and to you
Kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty every cent,
A scout is brave, clean, and reverent.

A scout is trustworthy, faithful to the end,
In keeping his promises, you can depend,
He's loyal to family, school, and to friends,
And to our great nation that he defends.

A scout recognizes the people of the world,
He's eco friendly to the Earth's citizens
Keeping diet from things that offend,
And passing the pot pipe of peace
Among those who seek an altered state.

105 posted on 08/02/2007 2:15:24 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: dfwgator

“mmmmmm.... this IS a tasty burger.”


106 posted on 08/02/2007 2:16:01 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: uksupport1
WTF Ping across the pond!
107 posted on 08/02/2007 2:16:51 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: dfwgator; Sue Perkick

Say, is that a “Big Kahuna’s” burger? He’ll need a tasty beverage to wash that down!


108 posted on 08/02/2007 2:39:32 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: foolscap
Totally ridiculous. The food arrangements could have been set up with stands that were kosher/halal and others with the normal burgers and hot dogs. Patronize the one the suits your requirements, but don't impose restrictions on others who don't share your beliefs.

I had a few Jewish friends at UseNIX conventions. A few of them made special trips to the local grocery store to acquire foods that met their requirements. No big deal. We each purchased foods satisfactory for our preferences. Nobody took offense at the foods chosen. We just ate and had a fine time.

109 posted on 08/02/2007 3:16:22 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Disambiguator
LOL! Tom Lehrer. I haven't heard that in years.

Oh, the Hindus
hate the Muslims,
and the Muslims
hate the Hindus,
and the Catholics
hate the Protestants
and everybody hates the Jews!

Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

110 posted on 08/02/2007 3:36:09 PM PDT by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven? [NRA Life Member])
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To: rmh47
OMG! I just posted: everybody hates the Jews! They'll be talking about me on O'Reilly's show tonight.
111 posted on 08/02/2007 3:39:20 PM PDT by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven? [NRA Life Member])
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To: MacDorcha; RonF; AppauledAtAppeasementConservat; Looking for Diogenes; Congressman Billybob; ...

Still trying to figure out is this is SATIRE and Dear GOD I hope it is.


112 posted on 08/02/2007 4:27:14 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: darkangel82

and just pinged it.


113 posted on 08/02/2007 4:28:02 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

Thanks for the ping SandRat. Here’s another one from unjolly ole England:

Muslims protest over pet food factory that could ‘rain down’ pork
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1874044/posts


114 posted on 08/02/2007 4:35:35 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: SandRat

Oy. “Scoutmaster” is on site, maybe he’ll post a report of his experiences when he gets home.

Why can’t they use common sense in Britain?


115 posted on 08/02/2007 4:37:45 PM PDT by Tax-chick (All the main characters die, and then the Prince of Sweden delivers the Epilogue.)
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To: Tax-chick

Dear GOD I hope so.

Speaking of Scouts will be checking out of FR at 1830 hrs to attend a Scout meeting.


116 posted on 08/02/2007 4:40:06 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

Maybe it’s an exaggeration. You can’t believe the media, anywhere. It seems so obvious, as others have said up the thread, to have various troops prepare whatever sorts of food suit them.

And even if it’s a dry year, they could have fire fighting presence sufficient to allow campfires, on such a historic occasion.


117 posted on 08/02/2007 4:41:44 PM PDT by Tax-chick (All the main characters die, and then the Prince of Sweden delivers the Epilogue.)
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To: Tax-chick

No official news from Council, Region, or National on this yet.


118 posted on 08/02/2007 4:45:50 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
It looks, from this statement:

They watched 300 fellow Scouts on Brownsea Island renew their vows to build a tolerant and peaceful society at the poignant Sunrise Ceremony, on Brownsea Island, via a live satellite link on Wednesday.

as if the meat ban and fire ban was just for this particular ceremony, involving a very limited group of Scouts.

And frankly, I don't recall "vows to build a tolerant and peaceful society" being part of Boy Scouting at all. Maybe it was just a goofball subgroup that arranged to hold a love-in on Brownsea Island.

119 posted on 08/02/2007 4:48:41 PM PDT by Tax-chick (All the main characters die, and then the Prince of Sweden delivers the Epilogue.)
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To: Principled

No. Bangers are much better than hot dogs.


120 posted on 08/02/2007 5:08:36 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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