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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 1 July 2007
Various big media television networks ^ | 1 July 2007 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 07/01/2007 5:11:00 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, July 1st, 2007

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff; Michael Gallagher, conservative talk radio host; Mark Green of Air America Radio.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Chertoff; Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Chertoff; House Majority Whip James Clyburn, D-S.C., and Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.; Lanny Davis, former Clinton special counsel; Ben Ginsberg, former counsel to the Republican National Committee; former national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski; former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: facethenation; foxnewssunday; guests; lateedition; lineup; meetthepress; news; sunday; talkshows; thisweek
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To: Phsstpok
The problems that the Bush administration has encountered as a result of doing the right thing has guaranteed, IMHO, that no president, D or R, will ever play it that way again.

I'm afraid that's correct. There will be no actual governing, only constant "campaigning."

321 posted on 07/01/2007 9:36:34 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: AliVeritas
It’s gonna take locals with guts that demand these Mosques either be close or combed over with a fine toothed comb.
When a church, mosque, synagogue or what ever becomes a hideout for terrorists than that’s what it is. It is no longer a church.
322 posted on 07/01/2007 9:38:38 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: G Larry

Another reason for the difference between leftwing and rightwing radio is the basic difference in the outlooks of the two sides. For lefties big govt. is great, the bigger the better. They do not bash government programs, they love them. so aside from personal attacks on particular politicians, they don’t have much to actually talk about.

Conservatives have a basic dislike and distrust of big government, so lots of discussion can carry on every day as to how to reduce the effects of government in our own (the listeners’) lives.


323 posted on 07/01/2007 9:39:24 AM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: txradioguy
Every govenor of a border state should be outraged at this game of political chicken the Congress critters are playing with their states.

My understanding was that the governors of California and Arizona were for the CIR bill the Senate just voted down. That leaves just New Mexico (Bill Ricardo-son, Dem Clintonista) and Texas.

324 posted on 07/01/2007 9:41:19 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: AliVeritas

Wow some great links here Ali.


325 posted on 07/01/2007 9:41:54 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: BusterBear
there appears to be an effort to obfuscate the data - on the actual number of illegals, on the actual content of the failed legislation, on the provisions of legislation already on the books, etc. Why is that?

Only the federal government has the time, money and hubris required to calculate exactly what it does not know, and since illegals in this country have stolen identities and pretended to be somebody else in order to secure government services they are not entitled to, that makes it even more difficult to know how many there are.

As far as the content of the proposed law, nobody has actually read the whole thing from cover to cover, so everybody relies on somebody else's intepretation.

And knowing what laws already exist is a bad idea, since that would indicate that the existing laws actually exist, and would resolve our crisis IF THEY WERE ENFORCED.

326 posted on 07/01/2007 9:46:30 AM PDT by Bernard
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To: txradioguy

Like large cities in the US, London is populated by non-natives to a huge majority. Way over 60%, but I don’t remember the exact figure.


327 posted on 07/01/2007 9:46:41 AM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: MNJohnnie
Duncan Hunter has had small portions of a fence built in his district an claims that it does indeed help.

What is wrong with fencing off the entire border with the necessary cameras, perimeter road, barbed wire, increased border patrol etc. It dramatically improved security for Israel. Hundreds of Private contractors incentivized could build the fence in little or no time if the resolve and desire was there, since the money(some of it) already is.

328 posted on 07/01/2007 9:47:25 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Phsstpok

And thanks for those links


329 posted on 07/01/2007 9:49:00 AM PDT by don-o (“I don`t expect politicians to solve anyone's problems.The world owes us nothing” Bob Dylan)
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To: BusterBear
But there appears to be an effort to obfuscate the data - on the actual number of illegals, on the actual content of the failed legislation, on the provisions of legislation already on the books, etc. Why is that?

There is even a effort to prevent the collection of such data. We have been trying to get legislation enacted in VA to start having hospitals, schools, law enforcement and state agencies to collect such data without penalizing the individuals, but just to gather the information. The ACLU, Dems, and ethnic interest groups have been thwarting such efforts. IMO the information would probably be devastating and there would be a huge reaction from the public once they understand what kind of resources are being expended supporting people who shouldn't be here in the first place.

Unless you live in a cave or some remote area of the US, you only have to look around you to see how significant the demographic changes have been in just a decade or so. Today, one in every 8 residents of America is foreign born and will soon approach one in 7, the highest it has ever been in our history. You can't hide at least 36 million people.

This issue is not going away. It is the elephant in the room and growing larger every day. No matter how much spin the politicians use to disguise what is happening, it boils down to whom do you believe, the politicians or your own lying eyes? Grassroots organizations are springing up all over Virginia and the rest of the country. We are committed to taking our government back from the political elites of both parties who are disconnected from reality. "For they sow the wind, and they will reap the whirlwind."

330 posted on 07/01/2007 9:50:08 AM PDT by kabar
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To: snugs
Which is crazy since he is a fisherman, he asked for a report got one and acted upon its findings if the report was wrong then investigate those that gave the report not the person who commissioned it.

Yes, but the objective is to get Cheney. They're not interested in some stinkin' report or the bureaucrat who wrote it.

331 posted on 07/01/2007 9:52:58 AM PDT by BusterBear
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To: kabar
Great post Kabar, I especially like the part:

grassroots organizations are springing up all over Virginia and the rest of the country

The job will get done it's just a matter of who does it.

332 posted on 07/01/2007 9:53:45 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: kabar

It has to be at least 40 million illegals here based on ERs, social services, law enforcement pickups and the sheer number (multiply please), of the couple of plants they show bust with stolen SSNs (huge percentage btw). On my block alone, it has to be hundreds... one block. I’m talking mostly Mexican, Somalis, Ecuadorians, Salvadorians, you name it... i’m in NYC, it’s bad... and I was stationed in the SW years ago and it was unreal re: closing hospitals, prisons, enforcement. Here, they did door to door census last time... how did the results come out, they need another box to check.

You’re right, one bill at a time... never ‘comprehensive’.

Remember they’ve fudged each time on previous immigration legislation. Not enough money, manpower... blah. The exit program was said to have glitches and would be too expensive, Chertoff himself said the environuts hold them up over cacti (yep), not to mention the constant cutting and dumbing down on what should have started not on 9-12-2001, but way before. Do we really want CAIR and Ft. Dix six (as well as Dearbornistan), relatives brought in? I would love for all to read on all the hijackers/jihadis that had expired visas that attacked or attempted to attack our country chronologically. Steyn did a good job on it. The fact Atta was sent another card 6 months after 9-11 and the system is STILL not computerized and is backlogged now... should be common sense that this should be done ASAP.

The border HAS to be shut down.
We HAVE to know who’s in this country illegal, those here on expired visas have to be found, and we have to stop letting people from certain countries come here period (including tourist, student visas), sure ID can be faked and folks can fly in from other countries, but it cuts down the odds here on the ground.


333 posted on 07/01/2007 9:53:47 AM PDT by AliVeritas (America, love it or leave it. To Harry Reid: See me, feel me, touch me, bite me.)
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To: rodguy911

Isn’t Hunter’s district where elaborate tunnels under a border fence, including rail tracks, have been found?


334 posted on 07/01/2007 9:54:11 AM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: AliVeritas
Please stop with the common sense, that’s not what big govt. likes to hear.

I tend to agree with your 40 million figure, as one who has had his homeland stolen by third worlders legal and other, it’s not pretty and no fun to go through.

335 posted on 07/01/2007 9:57:18 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: kabar
It seemed to me that Brit was saying the results of the bill would be tragic. He also countered Juan re the "anti-Mexican, Anti-Latino, anti-Hispanic" crap that Juan was spouting. He reminded Juan that what people who were against the bill objected to was "illegal" was going to immediately be made "legal" .

I wish someone would've addressed one of the main reasons for the antagonism toward illegals: their demands for their "rights", as evidenced by their protests and demonstrations, all the while waving their mexican flags and denouncing the U.S. That is what awakened the "Sleeping Giant" of the American citizenry. Having lived in Central California for 21 years, we could see this coming a mile away, but the rest of the country wasn't paying attention. They sure are paying attention now.

336 posted on 07/01/2007 9:57:49 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: kabar

Times being what they are, don’t you think it’s time for a special door-to-door census? Undercover to begin? See who stirs...

They also need to check out their ICE employees on the DL, as well as those who issue visas (that put the actual ID portions together), as well as the immigration lawyers.

There are a lot of forgers out there, they have to learn somewhere.


337 posted on 07/01/2007 9:58:03 AM PDT by AliVeritas (America, love it or leave it. To Harry Reid: See me, feel me, touch me, bite me.)
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To: maica
I think he is near San Diego, don’t know much about the turf out there.
338 posted on 07/01/2007 9:58:14 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: AliVeritas
The real point is that nobody knows. Imagine if the number were 40 million. The senate bill would have legalized their status overnight and they would be entitled to bring in their spouse, children and one set of parents. These numbers are enormous and would change the cultural and linguist nature of this country. We just can't assimilate such numbers, yet the supporters of the bill were willing to take that risk. In 1986, the USG estimated one million would apply for amnesty. Three million applied.

Some of those against building a fence or physical barrier at the Mexican border do so because they don't want what they consider to be a negative image for the US [Berlin wall analogy] or an insult to Mexico. But the reality is quite different. "No other First World country has such an extensive land frontier with a Third World country. The significance of the long Mexican-U.S. border is enhanced by the economic differences between the two countries. “The income gap between the United States and Mexico,” Stanford University historian David Kennedy has pointed out, “is the largest between any two contiguous countries in the world.” They will keep coming unless we physically stop them.

339 posted on 07/01/2007 10:06:58 AM PDT by kabar
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To: OESY
The end of the Fairness Doctrine did not spawn conservative talk radio. Biased broadcast media did by systematically and methodically withholding (i.e., omitting) news stories and issue positions that appeared to support conservative causes.

Post of the day!! Post 316....

340 posted on 07/01/2007 10:07:59 AM PDT by NewsBee (This is the day the Lord has made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it!!!)
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