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Live Thread: Senate Amnesty Debate (CRITICAL 2ND CLOTURE VOTE TODAY!) Woo hoo!! It's DEAD!!
The U.S. Senate with Free Republic Input | June 28, 2007 | truthkeeper

Posted on 06/28/2007 6:25:57 AM PDT by truthkeeper

Here we are again my friends, hopefully for the last debate thread on this particular monstrous legislation. Proceedings are supposed to begin at 9:30 a.m. EST, with the cloture vote being taken at 10:30 a.m.

On a personal note, you've all been wonderful in your passion, vigilance, and commitment to the principles on which our country was founded. If I have to be in a foxhole, I want to be in it with you guys.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; deathofthegop; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; itsdeadjim; sellouts; stickaforkinit; ussenate; vampirebill
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To: truthkeeper
Pat yourselves on the back people. It's a grrreeaaattt day,and you deserve it.

Yes... "you" are the big winner today... "you" are on a roll... "you" were named Time Magazine's Person of the Year last year, and "you" were instrumental in keeping this garbage from becoming law.

And of course, by "you"... I mean every citizen of the US.

2,201 posted on 06/28/2007 1:20:57 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket
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To: So Cal Rocket
Do you think "The American People" can get on the cover of Time this year?

Hey...I can dream, can't I? :-)

2,202 posted on 06/28/2007 1:22:38 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid./LOUD and PROUD!)
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To: Cedric

Ah, the answer for everything. It goes up, “Money knows.” It goes down, “Money knows.” Do you know how silly that sounds?


2,203 posted on 06/28/2007 1:23:17 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Earthdweller

At least they won’t be legal. :)


2,204 posted on 06/28/2007 1:24:14 PM PDT by publana (Build the fence!)
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To: Cedric
Dunno. The only money I've ever made in the market is on news not rumors. I haven't made a ton, but I've never lost.
2,205 posted on 06/28/2007 1:24:59 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Brownback changed his vote from YES to NO when he saw it going the other way, the weasel.


2,206 posted on 06/28/2007 1:26:36 PM PDT by de meanr (No Amnesty)
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To: So Cal Rocket
I'm sure glad it's "you" and not "them" that listens to talk-radio.

-PJ

2,207 posted on 06/28/2007 1:26:48 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: klimeckg; JackRyanCIA

Robert Novak said it best:

“On its own, the decision to combine border security with naturalization of illegal immigrants has always been the President’s way of holding a national priority (security) hostage to a policy (legalization) that he views as desirable. “

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21024


2,208 posted on 06/28/2007 1:26:51 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: de meanr
Brownback changed his vote from YES to NO when he saw it going the other way, the weasel.

Correction: He is now known as Senator Sam SwitchBack

2,209 posted on 06/28/2007 1:31:54 PM PDT by golas1964 (Bush = Quack the Tongue-tied RINO)
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To: Greg F
A true conservative will not accept a VP role with Giuliani.
2,210 posted on 06/28/2007 1:33:30 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: nicmarlo
Order online from Harry and David or some legitimate company...

Shouldn't be a problem.

2,211 posted on 06/28/2007 1:35:31 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: TomGuy
Bush looked shaken....!!!!

I've been shaken for over 6 weeks!!!!!!!

2,212 posted on 06/28/2007 1:36:28 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Guenevere
I've been shaken for over 6 weeks!!!!!!!

Try over 2 years!

2,213 posted on 06/28/2007 1:39:55 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Guenevere

We will definitely need to confirm with the offices...make sure it will be accepted.


2,214 posted on 06/28/2007 1:40:30 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Political Junkie Too

“At the end of Limbaugh’s show today, he discussed something that Lindsey Graham said, that it was his job to work with the Democrat majority to get things done.”

Can anyone (in their right mind) picture Barbara Boxer or Ted Kennedy making this same statement (except in regards to a GOP majority) two years ago?!

There’s always a time and place for true bi-partisanship - but this “Immigration Reform” bill was not one of ‘em. Lindsay Graham did the GOP no favors by rolling over for the Democrats.


2,215 posted on 06/28/2007 1:40:48 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Guenevere

If Bush has started drinking again, per the rumors, tonight’s going to be one of those nights for he, and his compadre, Ted.


2,216 posted on 06/28/2007 1:45:45 PM PDT by Buzzm1
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To: LS

There are none so blind....


2,217 posted on 06/28/2007 1:45:57 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Jim Robinson

Absolutely, we can take this country back!


2,218 posted on 06/28/2007 1:46:48 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: DCPatriot

Look, I have heard this argument-Michale Medved believe this. However, I think Hispanics are a natural constituency of the Democrat Party. They come from a socialist country. Certainly socialism is more similar to the Dems than to the Repubs. We were never getting hispanic vote which is why the Dems were so anxious to get this bill through.

I heard the statistics about 2004 and 2006. However, they lump the Cuban-American vote in with hispanic vote-two different groups. The Cuban-Americans held a grudge for quite a while over the Gonzales situation- sending the child back to Cuba.

The Repubs pushing for this bill wanted slave labor (horrible motivation) and the Dems wanted the new voters.


2,219 posted on 06/28/2007 1:53:27 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Cedric; All
Let’s try it this way:

Which party, by and large, saved us from this dreadful bill? {direct answers only, no “squishy” answers, please}

Well, a "squishy" premise such as your deserves a "squishy" answer, but I'll forego the temptation and give you the direct answers you claim to seek:

NO PARTY saved anybody from anything today. It was THE PARTIES which were the agents and enablers of the various interests which originated the threat this bill presented.

What saved us (for a time) was millions and millions of INDIVIDUAL Americans, of all parties, ethnicities, races, etc., across the board and across party lines, who stepped-up and confronted INDIVIDUAL Senators, of BOTH PARTIES, and let them know in no uncertain terms that they, personally, would suffer dire consequences if they allowed this abomination to pass.

Except for a principled handful, the Senators who finally voted to stop this atrocity did so solely to save their own sorry asses and political careers. They didn't do it for their Party. Neither of the political PARTIES deserve credit for stopping the bill - the PARTIES were the enemy. There were only two things that saved the day: 1. The willingness of a handful of Senators to put the good of their country, and principle, ahead of PARTY; and 2. the instinct for survival of the far greater number who valued their own sorry hides above PARTY as well.

2,220 posted on 06/28/2007 1:54:15 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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