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Live Thread - Reid Seligmann's testimony in Duke/Nifong Case [Mike Nifong Resigns on the stand]
Live Thread - Fox News | 06-15-07 | Brytani

Posted on 06/15/2007 6:52:12 AM PDT by Brytani

I didn't see anything posted on this live testimony. Who's watching it and what are your thoughts?


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To: Constitutions Grandchild

BTW, here are the 20 issues the state bar is considering:

http://www.wral.com/news/local/page/1506296/


741 posted on 06/16/2007 10:17:12 AM PDT by cookiedough
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

When they come back we’ll keep you informed of that happenings since Fox and CourtTv will probably not cover the hearing or will break in with 50 commercials a hour.


742 posted on 06/16/2007 10:18:58 AM PDT by Brytani (Keeper of the FR Loofah, Bath-cap and Rubber Duckie)
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To: Brytani

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1506245/

I watched some of it. Basically, his attorneys said he was a neophyte at dealing with the media, he was an “old school” prosecutor not used to doing things the “new way” (which new way has been in effect for more than a dozen years), and that he did not intend for any bad effects to happen, but that he made mistakes and he was negligent in some ways. His attorneys also said he may not have known what was in the professional ethics code, but he followed the ethical rules anyway (I forgot how they stated this).

Basically, Nifong made some unintentional mistakes, some of which were due to negligence, and most of which were due to naivete (dealing with the media) or the fault of others (the media, the DNA place).

He sure never thought the way he handled the case would help his campaign.

Remember that Nifong’s attorneys didn’t have much to work with in defending him. That’s always a bummer for a defense attorney.


743 posted on 06/16/2007 10:23:21 AM PDT by cookiedough
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To: cookiedough

In the Old South,

Phase 1 - get a rope.

Phase 2 - use it.


744 posted on 06/16/2007 10:25:50 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: cookiedough
“Remember that Nifong’s attorneys didn’t have much to work with in defending him. That’s always a bummer for a defense attorney.”

It’s hard to defend Nifong because he’s guilty as hell. Not stupid, not incompetent, not naive. He knew this case, if handled “right” would only benefit him and his political ambitions.

I just hope the bar has more integrity then Nifong and those who covered for his actions.

745 posted on 06/16/2007 10:26:58 AM PDT by Brytani (Keeper of the FR Loofah, Bath-cap and Rubber Duckie)
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To: Brytani

I agree with you.

It didn’t sound like the panel was going to go easy on Nifong and I hope they disbar him. I think they will, but you never know.


746 posted on 06/16/2007 10:31:16 AM PDT by cookiedough
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To: cookiedough
My view on the counts.

1. Did Mike Nifong make extrajudicial statements to the media?

Yes, one of the judges asked him why he went on Bill O Reilly to talk about the case, if he only wanted people involved in the case to come forward.

2.Did Nifong know those statements would be disseminated?

Yes, BOR is the most widely seen cable show in the country.

3.Did Nifong know his statements would prejudice a jury?

Yes, unless he expects us to think he is a fool.

4.Did Nifong know his statements would heighten public condemnation of accused?

He said in testimony yesterday that his none legal friends had told him it was creating tension in the community.

5.Did Nifong make misleading statements to media, thus engaging in dishonesty, fraud and deceit?

The statements he made regarding the dna/lack of dna was dishonest and decietful.

6.Did Nifong fail to disclose exculpatory DNA evidence in a timely manner and fail to comply with a discovery request from defense (prior to Nov. 16.)?

He held on to the evidence even after the courts said it should be turned over. He also lied to the court saying everything was turned over.

7.Did Nifong fail the above issue by not relaying information about oral statements made to him by Dr. Meehan concerning other male DNA?

Yes, wheather by error or intentionally he did not relay the information.

8.Did Nifong fail to provide complete results even after several attempts by defense to get them (after Nov. 16)?

Yes

9.Did Nifong fail to above issue concerning Dr. Brian Meehan’s statements by providing info after Nov. 16?

Yes

10.Did Nifong instruct Meehan to prepare report of only positive matches?

I think further investigation is needed to determine this fact, (at least by what I heard yesterday.

11.Did Nifong lie to the court when he said he had handed over all exculpatory evidence?

Yes

12.Did Nifong lie to opposing counsel when he said he had handed over all exculpatory evidence?

Again unless we are to assume he had to legal knowledge of an intern, yes.

13.Did Nifong lie to the court by saying all of Meehan’s oral comments were included in the DNA lab report?

Yes, he did not even acknowledge a third meeting until yesterday.

Still 7 more counts but that should be enought to disbar him.

747 posted on 06/16/2007 10:42:38 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: mware

As long as this court has integrity and does not shudder in fear from their responsibility, Nifong is toast.

I read the 20 charges and could easily answer in the affirmative on all. As to the question of his punishment that’s clear to me as well.

Disbarment with no chance of regaining his law license in NC or any other state.

A heafty fine.

A felony charge of tampering with evidence, obstruction of justice and false imprisonment.

That’s just a start, I hope the families of the players own everything Nifong ever had and unfortunately I think the tax payers of Durham should be out of a few million in tax dollars for what their prosecutor put these innocent people through.


748 posted on 06/16/2007 10:53:16 AM PDT by Brytani (Keeper of the FR Loofah, Bath-cap and Rubber Duckie)
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To: Brytani

bump for later


749 posted on 06/16/2007 11:04:35 AM PDT by Christian4Bush ("Polls are for strippers and liberals." Caller to Rush, 6/5/2007)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
Didn’t that happen with Dave? I thought that was what he testified to. Oh, no. Not more testimony. What else could they say

After the "festivites" concluded phase 1, the WRAL reporter and lawyer he was chatting with said that one of the 3 boys mothers would be speaking in phase 2 as well as someone from Nifong's office speaking on his behalf, perhaps an assitant DA.

750 posted on 06/16/2007 11:06:56 AM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: Brytani

Does this court have the option of felony charges?

Thanks!


751 posted on 06/16/2007 11:09:43 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: roses of sharon

Back from recess.


752 posted on 06/16/2007 11:11:39 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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Oooh, I hear some audio. Sounds like they’re getting ready to resume.


753 posted on 06/16/2007 11:12:14 AM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: roses of sharon

Looks like WRAL is up, sound anyway.


754 posted on 06/16/2007 11:12:28 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: roses of sharon

I missed the morning session is this the verdict portion of phase one???


755 posted on 06/16/2007 11:13:43 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Brytani
"As long as this court has integrity......Nifong is toast."

Well, he IS toast, but certainly not due to any integrity on the part of NC Bar. Some NC legislators have threatened legislation to take disbarment responsibility away from the Bar Assoc. if Nifong skates, so - under the bus he goes.

However, this is NOT how NC Bar normally works. The last prosecutor to face them (actually a pair, worked same case) made Nifong look like Mother Teresa, yet they only received reprimands.

Having a NC law license is even better than an avowed communist professor having tenure at an Ivy League school. Probably even better than a Federal Judge.

756 posted on 06/16/2007 11:13:57 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: roses of sharon

We better hurry and get the popcorn ready. Sound is on solidly now.


757 posted on 06/16/2007 11:14:24 AM PDT by Wvoter
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To: Wvoter

Live mikes, they are always interesting.


758 posted on 06/16/2007 11:15:00 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: mware

Yes, this will be the verdict, I believe.

Then on to phase 2.


759 posted on 06/16/2007 11:15:41 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: diogenes ghost
One thing for sure every case he ever took part in will be up for review.

At least if the defendents can afford it.

760 posted on 06/16/2007 11:17:15 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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