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Mitt Romney gains momentum in GOP race
McClatchy Washington Bureau ^ | May. 27, 2007 | Steven Thomma

Posted on 05/27/2007 10:30:29 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued

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To: Clintonfatigued

The guy and his staff know how to run a campaign; for sure.


61 posted on 05/27/2007 11:50:36 PM PDT by no dems ( Dear God, how much longer are you going to let Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd live?)
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To: Clintonfatigued
I don't like liberals or panderers (or brainwashed cult members) all of which Mitt seems to be, but as much as I hate to admit it I MIGHT be able to plug my nose on election day and drag myself kicking and screaming against my will and go against everything I know and stand for and vote against a Hillary, Edwards, Gore etc if that was the choice, and if I were to do such a thing I would regret it for the rest of my life and smack myself in the face every time I thought about it, and for the rest of my days I would stick my ass out at strangers for them to give me a good swift kick for what I had done.

But that's a big MIGHT, however I can say unequivocally that there is no way I could ever vote for Rudy.

62 posted on 05/28/2007 12:21:27 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Fred Thompson’s official entrance into the mix will change the race even more. It’s Fred Thompson’s race to lose IMHO.


63 posted on 05/28/2007 12:34:54 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: little jeremiah
Sometimes people need shunning and shaming to understand that their behavior and words are unacceptable in human society. Love doesn’t always mean hearts and flowers. Man, Jesus Christ himself used very harsh words and behavior at times when needed! He whipped the money changers and kicked over their tables! He called the Pharisees whited sepulchers and, IIRC, compared them to snakes.

Those harsh word are resevered for the "Sons of Perdition" (SOP)and should not be confused with those who are going through the refiner's fire!

Not all bankers are SOP nor are all those who are afflicted with SSA.

Militant Gays would be considered SOP becasue they want to control and over throw good!

With those who are afflicted yes they need to hear sobering language and at the same time know there is a hand waiting to pull over from the darkside!

Once they are made aware than we must be patience as long as they are striving to over come and the comes through the enabling Power of the Atonement of Jesus Christ. and should they stumble they are not to berate themselves but have courage to continue to study the scriptures feast up,on the words of Christ knowing it might not happen here but to continue on the road of recovery and the Lord will be with them!

The Lord knows our Hearts and Minds and if one is sincere in their walk or jouney.

If we are the eyes and ears, arms and legs for the Lord here on earth we should use them to conform and to encourage these souls to stay the course and not judge them, that is the Lord commission if any are not sincere it is not place.

The Lord has given us the discernment to know the different between the SOP from those who are in bondage!

I really wish you would ponder this more because there are two elements at at work here!

Unconditional love is such a healing balm.

People change their lives because they feel the unconditional love the Lord, not because some group is coercing and shaming them into it, those methods are never real, nor long lasting!

Be it sexual or some other vice the results is the same for all those who are in bondage (be they unclean or call it perversion, it is all the same) and the Savior council us in how we can be of service to or fellowman to uplift and strengthen their walk


Winning the Battle Against Pornography Rory Reid

This is a 54 min talk about 25 mins into the talk a vital componet is spoken about...

Guilt, Shame and Godly Sorrow"

1- Guilt says my behavior is bad
2- Shame says I am bad
3- Godly sorrow or remorse is different

Godly sorrow is a gift of the spirit it a deep relization that our actions have offended the Father and our God it is a sharp awareness that this kind of sin has caused our Savior who knew no sin even the greatest of all to endure agony and suffering and bleed at every pore for our sins.

Once this awareness is awaken than one has a broken heart and contrite spirit this is the prerequisite for true repentance.

Many individuals shame themselves thus impair themselves from the process of feeling this Godly sorrow for their sins.

Godly sorrow is humbling NOT humiliating it a catylist for a transformation of creating for a lasting change.

As one listens to the talk they will see how the opposition can thwort the process of healing. There is so much to listen too in understanding Gods ways vs man limited ability to correct.

The enabling power of the Lord atonement must be allowed to be received, the scorn of men only impedes the process!

64 posted on 05/28/2007 3:56:50 AM PDT by restornu (True Christian Soldiers Are More Than Weekend Warriors! ~ "Mitt Romney 08")
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To: little jeremiah
Correction

Once they are made aware than we must be patience as long as they are striving to over come and the comes through the enabling Power of the Atonement of Jesus Christ. and should they stumble they are not to berate themselves, but have courage to continue to study the scriptures feast up,on upon the words of Christ knowing it might not happen here but to continue on the road of recovery and the Lord will be with them!

If we are the eyes and ears, arms and legs for the Lord here on earth we should use them to conform comfort and to encourage these souls to stay the course and not judge them, that is the Lord commission if any are not sincere it is not place.

65 posted on 05/28/2007 4:04:48 AM PDT by restornu (True Christian Soldiers Are More Than Weekend Warriors! ~ "Mitt Romney 08")
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To: LexBaird
Now that's funny! You are dinging Romney for "looking like he's acting [presidential]", but admire Thompson for coming across as genuine, when he was actually being paid to act Presidential.

Amazing. You really think Romney comes across as being genuine? Between being elected governor and running for president, the man has flipped on almost every issue. I really hope he is conservative as he now says he is, but he looks just as genuine parsing his words when he was speaking pro-abortion as he does now.

66 posted on 05/28/2007 4:20:40 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: omnivore

Me too. I just worry that the GOP will destroy it’s base long before 2008 comes. If they pass the Immigration Bill, the GOP will become a permanent minority party.


67 posted on 05/28/2007 5:05:38 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: restornu

I will read your comments carefully later today when I have time, thanks. And what exactly do you mean by “Sons of Perdition”?


68 posted on 05/28/2007 6:49:05 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for the truth will know the truth.)
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To: little jeremiah
And what exactly do you mean by “Sons of Perdition”?

There is a lot I could say on it but for now it those who follow Lucifer/Satan

John 17:
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

2 Thes. 2:
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Eph 6
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

69 posted on 05/28/2007 11:07:16 AM PDT by restornu (True Christian Soldiers Are More Than Weekend Warriors! ~ "Mitt Romney 08")
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To: Always Right
Amazing. You really think Romney comes across as being genuine?

You really don't get the cognitive dissonance? Fred was being praised for his "Presidential" demeanor WHILE ACTING IN A ROLE! IT WASN'T GENUINE! IT WAS REALLY ACTING! Yet you accuse Romney of not appearing "genuine" enough, or looking too polished to be believed, or something?

What you are saying is that you think Fred fakes sincerity better than you think Mitt does. The whole "looks" thing is so stupidly petty when deciding whom our Presidential nominee should be, it's laughable. Yet, here it is, being used as attack points against two different candidates, as if it amounted to a real qualification. Lord save our Republic from the shallow.

See my tag for further clarification.

70 posted on 05/28/2007 11:31:34 AM PDT by LexBaird (PR releases are the Chinese dog food of political square meals.)
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To: LexBaird

The difference is Fred is an actor. When Fred speaks he as a politician he is genuine. Romney is an actor when he is running for office. Romney can be a liberal’s liberal one election and a staunch conservative the next.


71 posted on 05/28/2007 2:12:00 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
The difference is you are willing to be hypercritical of one candidate’s presence, and selectively gullible for another’s public face, based on what you desire to see.

When one consciously puts forth a “presidential” image, you declare it faked. When the other does, you declare it genuine. The truth is, you don’t know either one personally enough to know if their public face is genuine or not. You’re just projecting your own biases and desires. You WANT one to be genuine and the other a fake, to shore up your own support choice.

Well, what if they are BOTH being honest in their position statements? Or what if they're BOTH simply saying what they think people want to hear? You can't tell that by looking at them.

72 posted on 05/28/2007 2:38:28 PM PDT by LexBaird (PR releases are the Chinese dog food of political square meals.)
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To: LexBaird

Well that’s what is called making a judgment. I trust Fred more than I trust Romney. Could be wrong, but that is my perception. I would love to trust Romney. I have just seen him parse his words too much. Truthfully, I think he always has been more conservative than what he showed in the past. However, looking at his old tapes you could tell he was dancing around the question trying to avoid giving a straight answer. I just don’t care for that kind of politician. Afraid to stand up for what he believes because of the political ramifications. Sorry. I could vote for him over Hil-bama though.


73 posted on 05/28/2007 2:47:48 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
That’s a different sort of judgment: basing on past actions and statements is valid. Basing on physical appearance or presence is not valid. At the Presidential level of politics, any serious contender is an actor of considerable skill.

The trouble is the "soccer mom" swing voters, who vote for people like Arnold Schwarzenegger based on his fame and looks, without analyzing what he actually said or avoided saying during his campaign.

74 posted on 05/28/2007 2:55:41 PM PDT by LexBaird (PR releases are the Chinese dog food of political square meals.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

MARKING.


75 posted on 05/28/2007 4:04:24 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag! Mitt Romney for President '08)
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To: restornu

Thanks. Just to clarify my viewpoint, all sinners (i.e. - everyone) should be respected, but not all activities or messages should be respected.

All homosexuals should be offered our compassion, and the best compassion is to tell them the truth that they can leave the “gay life”, and make as many ways as possible available. And the the entire “gay rights” movement is lies.


76 posted on 05/28/2007 8:49:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for the truth will know the truth.)
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To: CheyennePress

You’ve got that right!


77 posted on 05/30/2007 5:53:07 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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