Deathbed Confession of Howard Hunt Fingers LBJ in JFK Murder

Associated Content ^ | 05-04-07 | Ranger

[mission9]

Ever since that late morning is Dealey Plaza Dallas Texas, November 22nd 1963, the soul of America has been tortured by lingering doubts about the official version of the murder of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy. The Chief Justice Earl Warren was appointed by Lyndon Baines Johnson to head the official investigation, the Warren Commission. After reviewing all the evidence, the Commission's final report named Lee Harvey Oswald as the lone gunman responsible.

In 1966, the book, Six Seconds in Dallas, raised important questions pointing to evidence which indicated that there was more than one shooter. More than one shooter would indicate a conspiracy, so the next question would be "Who else was involved"...

[RetiredArmy]

People, Kennedy was killed by a lone nut, Lee Harvey Oswald...end of story.

Right. Oswald shot Kennedy with a piece of crap rifle, with three shots within seconds, when other expert rifle shots have not been able to do the same trick in almost twice the time, plus Oswald was considered a poor shot while in the Marines. Leaves a lot of room for doubt about the number of shooters. The old bolt-action rifle was a piece of garbage. It could not be fired that quickly and reloaded that quickly to get off three shots in the time frame. Apparently, only "expert" Oswald is the only person that could do it.

[Sans-Culotte]

JFK was almost a conservative compared to the ass-clowns that currently hold sway.

Considering what an anti-communist JFK was (he considered Joseph McCarthy a "great American") there is no reason to believe he was going to back out of VietNam. If he were president today, he'd be as villified as GWB. Kinda funny that a guy who admired Castro and Che killed the president, and the people who mourned Kennedy's death had Che posters all over their dorm rooms...

[Shooter 2.5]

A Boy Scout troop could have done it. A Girl Scout Troop could have done it if they had enough practice.

The first shot starts the clock.
Miss.
Rechamber.
Second shot at 44 yards.
Hit.
Rechamber.
Third shot at 88 yards.
Hit.
8.3 seconds.

You couldn’t do it but I can with a crappy revolver or pistol. Easier with a four power scope and a benched rifle no matter who manaufactured it.

Stupid, stupid people.

[Peter Libra]

An ongoing subject indeed. Following the senseless death of President Kennedy. I have done some research on the man-Oswald. Although this author has combined fact with his imagination of various scenes, he may have got to the essence of what happened. His book is :

Libra

Don Delillo. Various editions including Penguin Books 1991.

I find this review of Libra, by Rob Couteau, Arete Mar/April 1989, one of the finest insights into Lee Harvey Oswald. Herewith:

Oswald possesses a smart alec smirke, a jaunty yet nervous balance to his stride. He has so much to offer the world, yet he lacks the education, the training, the right opportunity.....

He could not understand just why an insightful and intelligent man like himself was not recognised. He could scarcely hold down a job that most could handle. He brooded. He vent his angst on a national figure. He plotted. His whole internal system was honed to a razor sharp edge. He staked his whole life on one act.

Just my humble view. Ah, those born under the sign of LIBRA. So it goes.

[tsomer]

But they didn't have the means or the know-how to do the cover-up...

Why did Ruby shoot Oswald?

I admit I know nothing of this thing, with all the grassy knowles (knoll? can't even spell it!)

But I wonder about some assumptions:
Was the 'Camelot' mystique contemporaneous, or generated after his death? Sure, he was smart, like his old man, and got good press, but many historians don't rank him so high;he was indecisive --something of a bumbler. I can also say that not everyone liked him; my old man hated him (he was in NC that day.)There was residual anti-Pope sentiment openly expressed, and fears about involvement in Indochina.

Wiseguys only bet on a sure thing...

Maybe wise guys are like everyone else--they consider risk in proportion to potential gain? It would not be the first time in history a criminal organization committed or collaborated in a political act would it?

The other thing: I could conceive of a kind of 'half-assed' conspiracy in which parties merely facilitate, short of direct involvement. I would suppose these are the ones that succeed. In such cases the agents' primary characteristics are patience, the ability to recognize an Oswald or a Ruby, timing and discretion-- mostly in knowing when to exit.

I don't know... of course.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Who do you think funded the whole thing?:)

[RedMonqey]

His brain missing bothered me too. But recently heard that his brain wasn't missing but interred with the body after being examined.

Haven’t heard of the problems of the film....

Still the “facts” that conspiracy buffs base their beliefs on have been answered and thats good enough for me.

So until someone involved with crime confesses that they personally (no second or third hand witness) were part of it, it remains solved that Oswald did it by himself.

[RedMonqey]

“Who was managing and overseeing the investigation? Hoover.”

True,I don’t trust him either but what did he have to gain? Hoover was a crook and a law unto himself .
Hoover had the goods on the Kennedys and alot more people. His power was based upon blackmail. He had job security plus. But I don’t see what he had to gain from being involved either or covering up.

Deadend. Lyndon had the most to gain but where is the damning evidence? Just him being a snake and having crooked friends and a motive will get you laughed out of court. Besides Jack had major health problems and a hotshot of cocaine from his physican Dr Feelgood made Lyndon a heartbeat away from being top dog. Another Deadend.

[RedMonqey]

“Right. Oswald shot Kennedy with a piece of crap rifle, with three shots within seconds, when other expert rifle shots have not been able to do the same trick in almost twice the time”
Bull$h^t

Where do you get your info? It’s been proven over and over again by multiple documentries History Channel, Discovery, even Mythbusters that Oswald have PLENTY of time to aim,shoot and reload three times.

Seriously. When did you retire and from what army?

[eiyeeclaudius]

You've set up a structure of acceptance that will soon disappear. Everyone is getting old and dying.

Please provide a source on the brain. I have never heard that report you are citing and that's forty years and a lot of paying attention.

I am not a buff. I am someone who is very critical of the government actions regarding this murder. I find some of the conspiracies just as believable, especially the LBJ involvement.

[eiyeeclaudius]

I have addressed what I believe on LBJ. I also think the entire context of the location is suspicious. Of course LBJ would argue that it's too suspicious and who would set themselves up for questioning like that.

Easy to believe that LBJ and Hoover were in bed together against RFK.

My reading also says LBJ told Hoover, we have to get this wrapped up or the public will want a war with Cuba. Open to several connotations, I know.

I guess we will be doing this for years. Or maybe just me : )

[RedMonqey]

“You’ve set up a structure of acceptance that will soon disappear.”

True but considering the seriously of the charge and its implications I think it warrants it.

As far as JFK Missing Brain I must plead “no contest” I don’t remember for sure but it was neither the History channel or Discovery channel Documentary released last year.. IIRC

I’ll try and look and see if anything leaked onto the Internet..
“I am not a buff. I am someone who is very critical of the government actions regarding this murder.”

Didn't mean to imply you were. My apologies.

As for me I am a history buff. In the beginning I was among the conspiracy crowd. As I got older I saw the evidence of the conspiracies(pick any) prove misleading, half truth or out and out lies. And their ring of conspirators grew so large as to be impossible for that many people to keep a secret and conform to a single plotline. (reference recent history abu grab, Plame CIA affair, DC Madame, etc. It would be only conspiracy in history in which involved tens if not hundreds of people and not one of them ever talked much less convicted of the crime. And did it in public view of millions. Incredible. While I believe mankind is fully capable of plotting and assassinating a president(re: Lincoln Assassination)I just don't believe a criminal plot that vast could sustain itself this long, without even a minor participant confessing or snitching on one another. The Mobsters do this all the time. It is far more reasonable that an bitter little man with delusions of grandeur and a simple rifle took the life of an another. Even if the other man was the president

[Christopher Lincoln]

I remember MacBird, although I forget the name of the author.

[jordan8]

From Posner: On December 21, 1956, after three weeks of [M-1 Garand] training, he shot 212 [out of 250?], two points over the score required for a "sharpshooter" qualification, the second highest in the Marine Corps. Such a score indicated that from a standing position, he could hit a ten-inch bull's-eye, from a minimum of 200 yards, eight times out of ten.

Oswald's score book showed that he scored a 48 out of a possible 50 on one occasion, and a 49 out of a possible 50 on another, from 200 yards, iron sights, M-1 Garand.

[unspun]

All the evidence leads to Oswald and no one else.

Not all the evidence. Officers say a bullet went into the southern curb, etc.

Even if Oswald shot all the shots, it doesn't necessarily prove anything.

It's not like there is evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that Oswald conspired with no one but his own unfortunate ego.

[RedMonqey]

“Easy to believe that LBJ and Hoover were in bed together against RFK.”

Sorry I just can’t wrap my brain around that one. Political shennigans is one thing. Out and out murder of an president is another.

Gotta have proof before I can swallow that one.

And what would Bobby do? KNowing that LBY and Hoover killed his brother?
He didn’t seem the type to take this laying down.

It ain’t like the Kennedy family were just a dirt poor family from BumF%ck , Mississippi.

[I got the rope]

My mom...a flaming liberal schoolteacher...tells me the same thing.

Both of my parents are hardcore Democrat’s and they both told me that LBJ was a ruthless snake.

[Chances Are]

Nothing could make remarks like "we must avenge our fallen king!" ring true. That line was really a lapse on Stone's part.

There are those who would argue that Oliver Stone's life has been one long, continuous lapse...

CA....

[swmobuffalo]

“Give it up. If anyone can tell me how it was done while matching the Zapruder film and the autopsy I might think they are on to something.

All the evidence leads to Oswald and no one else.

I don’t know how Jim Rob can stand turning FR into the National Inquirer”

There is no way that the head shot that killed Kennedy came from behind. Too many eyewitnesses saw that shot.

The autopsy results were tampered with.

Isn’t any National Inquirer to it. Google video has the BBC series spoken of earlier, go watch. Oswald was a patsy.

[unspun]

You can replicate that with your own experiment. Simply use a highpowered rifle and shoot aninanimate oblect liek a watermelon or a simple 5 gallon jug filled with water. You will see the same effect. Bullet enters from direction A, container splinters outward, bullet exits on side B, container moves in direction A. Makes it look as if container was shot from direction B instead of direction A. I recreated the scene using a simple VHS camera and a 4 head recorder to stop action/slow motion the tape. Simple and very explanatory. Try it yourself.

Kids have replicated that experiment for generations, playing marbles. Hit the marble just right and it will go backward (it can't go down).

The most peculiar apparent bit of the whole chain of events though, is Jack Ruby.