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BBC: Protein links T. rex to chickens ~ ummm tasty....
BBC ^ | Thursday, 12 April 2007, 19:27 GMT 20:27 UK | Paul Rincon Science reporter, BBC News

Posted on 04/12/2007 1:57:11 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

By Paul Rincon


Science reporter, BBC News


T. rex thighbone   Image: Science


Protein extracted from 68 million-year-old T. rex bones has shed new light on the evolutionary link between dinosaurs and birds.

Researchers compared organic molecules preserved in the T. rex fossils with those of living animals, and found they were similar to chicken protein.

The discovery of protein in dinosaur bones is a surprise - organic material was not thought to survive this long.

A US team of researchers have published the finding in Science journal.

The team says their technique could help reveal evolutionary relationships between other living and extinct organisms.

The finding is consistent with the idea that birds can trace a direct evolutionary line to dinosaurs.

The goal of obtaining sequences either from proteins or DNA for extinct [organisms] has been a long-standing goal

Brooks Hanson, Science journal

The proteins are original organic material from the dinosaur's soft tissue, and not contamination, the scientists argue.

According to theories of fossilisation, original organic material is not thought to survive as long as this; finding them in a fossil this old is a genuine surprise. They are by far the oldest such molecules extracted from fossils.

"It has always been assumed that preservation of [dinosaur bones] does not extend to the cellular and molecular level," said co-author Mary Schweitzer, from North Carolina State University in Raleigh, US.

"The pathways of cellular decay are well known for modern organisms. And extrapolations predict that all organics are going to be gone completely in 100,000 years, maximum."

Brooks Hanson, an editor at Science journal said: "The goal of obtaining sequences either from proteins or DNA for extinct [organisms] has been a long-standing goal to test evolutionary links and processes, or even functional information."

The work builds on an earlier discovery of soft tissue - including blood vessels - by Dr Schweitzer's team in the same, incredibly well-preserved Tyrannosaurus rex fossils.

Exceptional preservation

The dinosaur remains - which include a skull, both thigh bones and both tibiae (shin bones) - were unearthed from rocks in the Hell Creek Formation of eastern Montana, US.

The fossils were buried under at least 1,000 cubic metres of loose sandstone, interspersed with muds, which are thought to represent ancient stream channel sediments.

Hell Creek, Montana  Image: Science
The bones were buried under 1,000 cubic metres of rock in Montana

The proteins found in the T. rex bones belong to the elastic connective fibres - known as collagen - that support other tissues in the body.

Collagen makes up most of the organic material in bone, which consists of both minerals and protein. It is the same substance injected into the lips, and other areas of the body, in cosmetic surgery procedures.

When minerals are removed from human bone, a collagen matrix is left behind. The US scientists performed the same operation on the T.rex fossil, and found what appeared to be residual traces of collagen.

The findings of protein in the bones were confirmed by mass sepctrometry, a sensitive technique that identifies chemicals by their atomic mass.

It was able to show the T.rex material contained sequences of amino acids - protein building blocks - typical of collagen.

Chicken-like

When the scientists compared the protein sequence pattern to those of living animals in a database, it was found to be structurally similar to chicken collagen, and there were also similarities with frog and newt protein.

Dr Schweitzer said the similarity to chickens was exactly what one would expect given the relationship between modern birds and dinosaurs."

Dr Jack Horner, a co-author from the Museum of the Rockies in Bozeman, Montana, explained that extraordinarily well-preserved fossils such as the ones in question were probably not unique.

"To get specimens like that involves excavating enormous amounts of material, covered with tens of feet of rock," Dr Horner said.

"The T.rex was under a thousand cubic yards of rock and therefore in a position not to have been invaded by bacteria or groundwater," he said.

"I think we're learning an important lesson here - that if we do get specimens like this, we spend a lot of time getting as deep into the sediment as we can in places where there has been very little atmospheric or water contamination."

Dinosaurs, excluding bird lineages, disappeared from the face of the planet 65 million years ago. The reptiles are thought to have been killed off by an asteroid impact which struck off the present-day Yucatan peninsula in Mexico.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: callingcolsanders; catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs; maryschweitzer; science
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
but can they link it to this?

Yes, that's an ancient horse in it's mouth.

Hmmm ... no resemblence to a T Rex here ... (/sarc)

21 posted on 04/12/2007 3:27:09 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Did they have National Geographic over there then?


22 posted on 04/12/2007 3:47:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Yep! Even in China...

Shang Dynasty jade.

http://www.palaceantique.com/Browse.aspx?id=706

translation:

Shang Dynasty, Jade dinosaur H. 39cm, W. 14kgs Some believes the mythical Chinese dragon may be the dinosaur in the Gretaceous Period. The Chinese character of Dragon has been formed by the pattern derivation which must base some thing in the real world. If this is true, then the ancient Chinese must see the live dinosaur to compose the dragon character. The shape of ancient character of dragon looks like the shape of dinosaur. Tyrannosaurus is the major dinosaur family of the Gretaceous period. Tyrannosaurus was one of the largest terrestrial carnivores of all time. It stood approximately 15 feet high and was about 40 feet in length, roughly six tons in weight. In its large mouth were six-inch long, sharp, serrated teeth. The artifact has the simplified design of tyrannosaurus with only two legs. The typical relief auspicious cloud lines in the Shang dynasty. It is made of white color nephrite with phenomena of differential weathering, cleaving veins and earth penetration.

23 posted on 04/12/2007 4:12:45 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Wow, expensive.


24 posted on 04/12/2007 5:07:05 PM PDT by xedude
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To: xedude
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two-legs and a tail...reminds me of the creature on the Ica Stone.

25 posted on 04/12/2007 5:24:47 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Plutarch

Well, those who have not evolved are naturally opposed to evolution - is it any fun to be left behind?


26 posted on 04/12/2007 5:31:17 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: barb-tex
"T-Rex tastes a lot like chicken, like rattlesnake does.

And turtle and frog legs. T-Rex must have eaten what they ate.

27 posted on 04/12/2007 7:46:00 PM PDT by BobS
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hey Ernest, if they gather enough of this protein to culture it and inject it in enough chickens, a one-egg breakfast will not be a diet plan.


28 posted on 04/12/2007 7:57:44 PM PDT by BobS
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"I've found my inner T. Rex!"

29 posted on 04/12/2007 8:08:41 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel ("...Mindless pack of trained Maoist circus seals."-www.iowahwk.typepad.com)
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To: BobS

ROFL!


30 posted on 04/12/2007 8:31:35 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

LOL...what’s he holding?


31 posted on 04/12/2007 8:32:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: VaBthang4

“No damn T-Rex shrunk down over eons to become a friggin chicken!”

Such a sophisticated and well supported opinion!


32 posted on 04/12/2007 9:29:05 PM PDT by Boxen (Branigan's law is like Branigan's love--Hard and fast.)
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To: JRios1968

I always assumed T-Rex tasted like chicken, but was never willing to get close enough to find out.


33 posted on 04/12/2007 9:30:54 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter-Thompson '08)
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To: Centurion2000

Man, Thanksgiving dinner would have been pretty filling back then. Wonder how much stuffing one of those birds would take?


34 posted on 04/12/2007 9:33:48 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter-Thompson '08)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“It is the same substance injected into the lips, and other areas of the body, in cosmetic surgery procedures.”

....and used to make McDonalds thick shakes...

...allegedly!


35 posted on 04/12/2007 9:54:56 PM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: VaBthang4

“adult fairy tale”

Describes most religious texts..


36 posted on 04/12/2007 10:00:30 PM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: frithguild

hey, put me on. :-)


37 posted on 04/12/2007 10:10:49 PM PDT by spotbust1 (Procrastinators of the world unite . . . . .tomorrow!!!)
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To: Fred Nerks

To me, it looks like a RINO, oops, rhino, with some stuff in the background. :’) Those rhinos are always horning in. Thanks for the ping, looks like an earlier version is here:

Ancient T. rex and mastodon protein fragments discovered, sequenced
National Science Foundation | 12-Apr-2007 | Cheryl Dybas
Posted on 04/12/2007 3:43:57 PM EDT by AdmSmith
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1816333/posts


38 posted on 04/12/2007 11:10:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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39 posted on 04/12/2007 11:12:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
T Rex = Super Chicken!


40 posted on 04/12/2007 11:21:06 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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