Posted on 03/29/2007 7:21:40 AM PDT by pissant
Sean Hannity Interview, 2007:
HANNITY: Let me move on. And the issue of guns has come up a lot. When people talk about Mayor Giuliani, New York City had some of the toughest gun laws in the entire country. Do you support the right of people to carry handguns?
GIULIANI: I understand the Second Amendment. I support it. People have the right to bear arms. When I was mayor of New York, I took over at a very, very difficult time. We were averaging about 2,000 murders a year, 10,000...
HANNITY: You inherited those laws, the gun laws in New York?
GIULIANI: Yes, and I used them. I used them to help bring down homicide. We reduced homicide, I think, by 65-70 percent. And some of it was by taking guns out of the streets of New York City.
So if you're talking about a city like New York, a densely populated area like New York, I think it's appropriate. You might have different laws other places, and maybe a lot of this gets resolved based on different states, different communities making decisions. After all, we do have a federal system of government in which you have the ability to accomplish that.
From a 2000 interview with Tim Russert:
Tim Russert: How about registration of ALL handguns?
Rudy Giuliani: Uh, you know I'm in favor of that. I've been on your show many times, talking about, uh, the program that the president (Clinton) talked about in his state of the union speech - I have been giving speeches about and talked about on your show for the last 10 to 15 years. Which is, I believe, is that we should treat the possession of a handgun the way we treat driving an automobile.
And therefore a person who wants to possess a handgun should pass a written test, should be able to pass a physical test in the actual use of the gun, and should have to demonstrate good moral character and a REASON to have the gun.
That those should be, essentially there should be a UNIFORM LAW PASSED BY CONGRESS that says that every state has to administer that, the way we say that we're not going to let you drive an automobile if you're too young, we're not going let you drive an automobile if you had a bad record, and uh, every state has a slightly different variation of that, but every state has a uniform law that guarantees our safety. I think the two things are good analogies, and I've been arguing for that since at least 1980.
That said, if he wins, his promotion of abortion and opposition to liberty won't be on my conscience.
LOL. Right.
Giuliani wants people to believe he was responsible for a reduction in human carnage in New York.
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/features/15248/
New York - the abortion capitol of the world.
Let's give credit where credit is due. To Rudy Giuliani.
Vanity post on the same Thursday morning with a whole bunch of polls just out with Rudy in the lead? Gotta call.......FLOPSWEAT!
Rudy Giuliani: Uh, you know I'm in favor of that. I've been on your show many times, talking about, uh, the program that the president (Clinton) talked about in his state of the union speech - I have been giving speeches about and talked about on your show for the last 10 to 15 years. Which is, I believe, is that we should treat the possession of a handgun the way we treat driving an automobile. And therefore a person who wants to possess a handgun should pass a written test, should be able to pass a physical test in the actual use of the gun, and should have to demonstrate good moral character and a reason to have the gun.
Rudy for President?
No.
No!
No!!
No!!!
NO!!!!
What about it?
Imagine President Gore or Hillary in the days after 9/11, that's the point.
"Now that's just silly. Rudy is going to be worse than Hillary!, really?"
No it isn't. You yourself made the Arnold argument. He got things passed Davis never could, because of his R. Rudy could do the same. If Hillary beat him, the GOP congress would play opposition politics.
I made the point because I'm an honest debater. I don't know where you live but the ratios of dems to Republicans in our state is a might bit lopsided, nowhere near what is going on in D.C. although if Hillary wins I'm sure there will be a lot of Dems on her coattails.
My vanity = Rudy's words. Defend his lies.
If you treat the second amendment the same as driving an automobile, then the second amendment is not a right it is a priviledge bestowed by the state.
The fact DL's are a privilege not a right is two fold. 1-it protects the income based on civil infraction. Rights have to have FULL due process rather than the current mere civil penalty process. 2. A right would become onerous to the courts because the defendant would have full constitutional rights invokable. (right to attorney, jury trials etc.)
Guiliani has a typical liberal lawyer prosecutor worldview. This is not good. It will NOT be reported by any of the media.
The Brady bill is law, and completely unrelated to Rudy's proposals. Rudy is advocating licensing, which allows the government to deny the right of gunownership. As well as outright bans. The Brady bill simply does a one time check of a purchasers legal status. No licensing involves, and in fact the retention of the records by the government is barred, as protection against a future licensing/ban scheme.
I'm not aware of any prominent Republicans who support licensing, Alan Keyes excepted, I don't view him as politically prominent.
When you love lefitst vermin like NARAL and Planned Parenthood, what would you expect?
"I think I will break some voter laws and ... VOTE TWICE FOR RUDY! .... just to piss-off pissant"
That just proves you're really a Chicago style DEMOCRAT
They're indefensible, your honor.
HANNITY: You inherited those laws, the gun laws in New York?
GIULIANI: Yes, and I used them. I used them to help bring down homicide. We reduced homicide, I think, by 65-70 percent. And some of it was by taking guns out of the streets of New York City.
So if you’re talking about a city like New York, a densely populated area like New York, I think it’s appropriate. You might have different laws other places, and maybe a lot of this gets resolved based on different states, different communities making decisions. After all, we do have a federal system of government in which you have the ability to accomplish that.
HANNITY: So you would support the state’s rights to choose on specific gun laws?
GIULIANI: Yes, I mean, a place like New York that is densely populated, or maybe a place that is experiencing a serious crime problem, like a few cities are now, kind of coming back, thank goodness not New York, but some other cities, maybe you have one solution there and in another place, more rural, more suburban, other issues, you have a different set of rules.
HANNITY: But generally speaking, do you think it’s acceptable if citizens have the right to carry a handgun?
GIULIANI: It’s not only — I mean, it’s part of the Constitution. People have the right to bear arms. Then the restrictions of it have to be reasonable and sensible. You can’t just remove that right. You’ve got to regulate, consistent with the Second Amendment.
HANNITY: How do you feel about the Brady bill and assault ban?
GIULIANI: I was in favor of that as part of the crime bill. I was in favor of it because I thought that it was necessary both to get the crime bill passed and also necessary with the 2,000 murders or so that we were looking at, 1,800, 1,900, to 2,000 murders, that I could use that in a tactical way to reduce crime. And I did.
I don't understand. If gun control was the solutions, why do cities like Chicago and DC who have the total handgun bans Rudy supports have sharply higher murder rates?
The crime rate went down because of Rudy's aggressive policing tactics. His supporters cite this as an attribute. And yes, aggressive policing included clearly unconstitutional tactics like stop and frisk, so it's not surprising he'd advocate licensing, or end runs around the legislature and courts like the manufacturers lawsuit.
How do you explain the fact that in cities and states where Carrying Concealed Weapons are allowed, the crime rate is lower?
I didn't want to pile on.
" GIULIANI: It’s not only — I mean, it’s part of the Constitution. People have the right to bear arms. Then the restrictions of it have to be reasonable and sensible. You can’t just remove that right. You’ve got to regulate, consistent with the Second Amendment."
What part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED do you not understand, Benito Giuliani?
Nor is there a right to keep and ride horses to extend to motor vehicles.
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