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Senate backs troop withdrawal from Iraq
Reuters (excerpt) ^ | March 27, 2007

Posted on 03/27/2007 2:52:00 PM PDT by HAL9000

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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

Well done!


461 posted on 03/27/2007 11:08:09 PM PDT by scratcher
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To: Brandie; Mr. Silverback
"Great post! Well said."

Ditto!

462 posted on 03/27/2007 11:11:13 PM PDT by scratcher
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To: HAL9000

The intellectual dishonesty of the Democrats is stunning but not surprising due to the intrinsic assist by the Dem-leaning MSM, not to mention academia, the arts etc.

So it appears that what Democrats want everyone to believe is since major stockpiles of WMDs have not been found the war is illegitimate, we should have never initiated military action, the troops should be pulled out, it is time for the Iraqi’s to stand up for themselves.

This begs the question (please ask your favorite liberal): If major stockpiles of WMD had been found would it still be right to pullout before the Iraqi government can completely takeover it’s own security?

The Democrats can say all day long that they were lied to, tricked into war, but after they chose to give authorization to the President and after the operation began (ending of a ceasefire don’t forget) whether WMD’s were found or not didn’t/doesn’t change the responsibility the coalition would have after removing an entrenched, brutal regime: providing security, assisting in rebuilding infrastructure, fostering a peaceful transition to a new government and, when Iraqi security was up to speed, withdrawing troops.


463 posted on 03/27/2007 11:13:09 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Al Queda In Iraq - Undocumented Terrorists)
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To: All
Please spread the word about an appeal for redress that people in the military can sign to show support for the mission:


www.appealforcourage.org

464 posted on 03/27/2007 11:23:55 PM PDT by bnelson44
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To: CatoRenasci; Owen; GBA; mutley; Paco; HAL9000; Rocko; Austin Willard Wright; Alissa; plain talk; ...
Senate Signals Support for Iraq Timeline (Hagel Turns Coat)
465 posted on 03/28/2007 2:12:56 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom

No, it's the other way around. This was an Amendment to the bill, so it needed a majority of yeas.


466 posted on 03/28/2007 3:08:38 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
If there's one thing I read about Jesus is that he hated self righteousness. He said there were none good. Too many people think because you cheated on your wife you are somehow not worthy of any kind of leadership. It makes me sick!

The fact is that Bush gave us good judges, tax cuts and has the integrity to fight a war that needs to be fought but most politicians are to afraid to fight because its politically dangerous. Bush needed at least one branch of Congress. The problem is the moralist won't learn their lesson because self righteous people are full of pride and stubbornness.

467 posted on 03/28/2007 4:12:52 AM PDT by nativist
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To: EndWelfareToday
Name a promise Dubya broke.

I don't see any conservative judges. Do you?
I don't see any Social Security reform. Do you?
I don't see any protections for the military personnel that are falsely accused of crimes being defended by their commander in Chief. Do you?

Roberts and Alito...what judges did the President appoint that you view as liberal?

President Bush did all he could to reform socialist security. Do you recall in his SOTU when he flat out told the American people the RATS had blocked all his attempts and they stood and laughed and cheered???

When did he promise "protections for the military personnel that are falsely accused of crimes"???

468 posted on 03/28/2007 5:33:17 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: scottdeus12
Pathetic losers. Gutless turds......

LOL C'mon...tell us how you really feel.

469 posted on 03/28/2007 5:42:03 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: JennysCool
Thanks again, "protest voters."

I second that.

470 posted on 03/28/2007 5:54:08 AM PDT by cake_crumb (NO BLOOD FOR SPINACH SUBSIDIES)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
"Make sure you blame conservatives every chance you get."

Balony. I've met a lot of libertarians who talk exactly like Democrat. The only difference is their compulsion to build a wall, close the airports and produce everything domestically or do without - except drugs, which should be legalized and taxed and they agree with most Democrats on that score - and the REASON they give us when trying to convince us to vote Democrat.

471 posted on 03/28/2007 5:57:33 AM PDT by cake_crumb (NO BLOOD FOR SPINACH SUBSIDIES)
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To: Mr. Silverback
I'm tired of it too, Mr Silverback.

Especially since the guys calling him a coward are comfortably sitting at their computers taking no risks at all to keep this country safe.

And at the same time, President Bush is in danger every single moment of every single day, and is taking risks, and nearly standing alone at times (because of the weak-willed R's in Congress) to defend this country from evil.

Anyone calling President Bush a coward needs to be laughed at and called to task by all of us who understand the stakes of what this LEADER is doing.

472 posted on 03/28/2007 6:13:44 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops!!)
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To: Mr. Silverback; erton1; jveritas
erton1 just signed up on FR a few weeks ago.

Perhaps that's why he is purposefully 'misunderestimating' the President's character.

As for the question about the Commander in Chief's ability to allocate funds to the troops, there are others who can explain it better than I.

jveritas is one of them.........perhaps he can help you out.

btw, it is mentioned upthread by others. I just affirmed that I had also read that he could.

473 posted on 03/28/2007 6:18:45 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops!!)
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To: EndWelfareToday
I don't see any conservative judges. Do you?

Ah, the words of an 'expert' who lives in a cave.

Is this a joke? Did you forget your sarcasm tag?

474 posted on 03/28/2007 6:22:34 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops!!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
--it takes 67 votes, not 60, to override a veto. Lastly, you assume that the public will be hap-hap-happy with the Dems for playing games with troop funding, and will not want the commander in chief to run the military during a war.
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They will not have to override his veto of this bill because the President doesn't have the time or the votes to get another bill supporting the surge through congress. The 60 votes I'm talking about will come when the surge fails and the spineless congressional republicans will capitulate and support the dems phased troop withdrawal in the fall. The president will not veto a bill that would have a good chance of being overridden. He will see the writing on the wall and seek compromise with the turncoats in his own party. Project the way this war has been reported thus far into the summer after the troop surge runs out of money and insurgents are winning in Bhagdad. American voter sentiment will be reported as firmly;y anti-war and the republicans who have to run in '08 will withdraw support for "Bush's War". Of course this is not etched in stone and their are many other possible outcomes. You smugly think that the most plausible and palatable will prevail. I am exploring different scenarios for the sake of discussion. Your thinking is what got us the dems in '06. We took lightly the damage they could do when in control. Look at the hearings, the US attorney controversy, the global warming initiatives, and the troop funding delays. These wouldn't be occurring if republicans still controlled both houses. When you play chess, you learn to think many many moves ahead and prepare for many different possibilities. Use your imagination and combine it with your reasoning power. You might like looking at many facets of an issue instead of just two "sides" to the same story.
475 posted on 03/28/2007 6:23:18 AM PDT by photodawg (It's not about how hard you can hit. It's about how hard you can get hit ......Rocky Balboa)
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To: EndWelfareToday
George Bush is a Globalist first, an American second.

Ah.........yet another cultist has invaded this conservative website?

Globalists don't stand up against World Courts. Globalists don't stand up to the U.N. Globalists don't fight a war in the face of massive world wide opposition, especially from our 'allies' in Europe.

People who call President Bush a globalist because they disagree with this illegal immigration policy are missing a few screws........or trying to incite arguments on a conservative forum and divide conservatives.

Which is it with you?

476 posted on 03/28/2007 6:26:57 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops!!)
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To: erton1

For the fiscal year 2007 the troops have all their funds approved. This debate is about approving supplemental funds for 2008. The excellent news is that for the fiscal year 2008, the Pentagon budget which is separate from the supplemental budget to fund the troops and which has been already approved has 150 billions more money than that of the Pentagon budget in 2007 enough to fund the troops in 2008 without the need of a supplemental fund bill and enough to launch an Air War against Iran if it is required. Moreover the President can allocate any emergency fund he wants from the budget not just the Pentagon budget to fund the troops. Think about the budget as a big check given to the executive branch and they can spend the money on anything they want and those who gave the check i.e. Congress cannot do anything about until the next fiscal year budget.


477 posted on 03/28/2007 6:30:15 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: HAL9000

Mornin'!
Just got this interesting little tib bit from my parents. Thought if fit PERFECTLY with the SLAMMING sermon we left on Haggling ole Hag Hagel's senate phone. Poor child ... ears are probably still burning. lololol

Knowing this group -this could be old news:

The lady who wrote this letter is Pam Foster of Pamela Foster and Associates in Atlanta . She's been in business since 1980 doing interior design and home planning. She recently wrote a letter to a family member serving in Iraq ....... Read it!

"Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001 ?

Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan , across the Potomac from our nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania?

Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?

And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was "desecrated" when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?

Well, I don't. I don't care at all.

I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.

I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia!

I'll care when Abu Musab al-Zarqawi tells the world he is sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.
I'll care when the cowardly so-called "insurgents" in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques.

I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.

I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights.

In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care.

When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have been humiliated in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest assured that I don't care.

When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank that I don't care!

When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed "special" food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being "mishandled," you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts that I don't care!

And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled "Koran" and other times "Quran." Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and ---- you guessed it - - I don't care ! ! ! ! !
If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your e-mail friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behavior!
If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button.
Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great country.

I am not deleting this, I am sending it on, but only after
I add: --"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem." -- Ronald Reagan
I have another quote that I would like to add AND....... I hope you forward this such as I have.
"If we ever forget that we're One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under."
also by... Ronald Reagan


478 posted on 03/28/2007 6:35:50 AM PDT by Serafinos
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To: Yehuda

Your post is misplaced. I suspect that Bin Laden is happy that we are mired down in Iraq while he makes hay in Pakistan and Afghanistan.


479 posted on 03/28/2007 6:47:50 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Bin Laden isn't "making hay" in Afghanistan or Pakistan. He and the Taliban are still in hiding and on the run.

FYI: You seem to believe that the US doesn't have the forces to fight both wars at the same time. That just isn't true. The manpower and resources used in each country is based on a military assessment of what is necessary to do the job. Cutting back our forces in Iraq doesn't translate into more forces for Afghanistan.

480 posted on 03/28/2007 7:01:12 AM PDT by kabar
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