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Yes, Rudy Giuliani Is a Conservative
FrontPage magazine ^ | January 25, 2007 | Steven Malanga

Posted on 02/28/2007 9:56:17 AM PST by Peach

Not since Teddy Roosevelt took on Tammany Hall a century ago has a New York politician closely linked to urban reform looked like presidential timber. But today ex–New York mayor Rudy Giuliani sits at or near the top of virtually every poll of potential 2008 presidential candidates. Already, Giuliani’s popularity has set off a “stop Rudy” movement among cultural conservatives, who object to his three marriages and his support for abortion rights, gay unions, and curbs on gun ownership. Some social conservatives even dismiss his achievement in reviving New York before 9/11.

An August story on the website Right Wing News, for instance, claims that Giuliani governed Gotham from “left of center.” Similarly, conservatives have been feeding the press a misleading collection of quotations by and about Giuliani, on tax policy and school choice issues, assembled to make him look like a liberal.

But in a GOP presidential field in which cultural and religious conservatives may find something to object to in every candidate who could really get nominated (and, more important, elected), Giuliani may be the most conservative candidate on a wide range of issues. Far from being a liberal, he ran New York with a conservative’s priorities: government exists above all to keep people safe in their homes and in the streets, he said, not to redistribute income, run a welfare state, or perform social engineering.

The private economy, not government, creates opportunity, he argued; government should just deliver basic services well and then get out of the private sector’s way. He denied that cities and their citizens were victims of vast forces outside their control, and he urged New Yorkers to take personal responsibility for their lives.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=26604


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservativemyasp; fauxconservative; fiscalconservative; goombahyah; gungrabbingrino; liberalwithr; malanga; rino; rudy; rudyforpresident; rudygasm
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To: jammer

I have never even looked at DU.

I don't mind a heated discussion but recently the remarks are not a discussion and it drowns out any reasonable debate.

Last night was a real eye opener no matter who anyone supported.



201 posted on 02/28/2007 5:31:58 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- RudyforPresident2008@yahoogroups.com or http://www.rudygforamerica.com)
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To: Keith in Iowa
"I find the hate-Rudy vitriol to be equally distasteful. Mind you, I don't agree with his every position, but he's being needlessly excoriated around here."

I agree it does get vitriolic. The trouble is that Rudy supporters frequently come on like the primary was held last week--it wasn't. Excuse me--but there are those of us who want a choice in the primaries. This declaration of victory over a year out smacks of ignorant arrogance.

No one knows the outcome this far out. If you want proof of that read about the election of Jimmy Carter. In late '75 early '76 it was clear to everyone that Jerry Brown would carry the democratic nomination; clear to everyone except the abysmal Jimmy Carter.
202 posted on 02/28/2007 5:36:32 PM PST by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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To: jammer

My take on you is that you ain't yet really sure what you believe, and much too tempted to be politically correct, to ever be reliable! All you seem to be concerned with is your popularity factor!
I will never expect you to type out anything, until you check the wind out, first!
I'm done with debate, where I stand now is where I'm going to stand, period!
There is no room for "peacekeepers" here, way too late for that!
The "moderate republicans" have made proposals, a bunch of us have said, "Hell, no"! Nothing complicated about that, time for a pissing match, check your ammunition!
I say "NO", HELL NO", to all your liberal crap, best you figure out what it will take, to shove it down my throat.
I never bluff!


203 posted on 02/28/2007 5:51:25 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (BUAIDH NO BAS, JUST SAY NO TO RINO!)
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To: jammer

We probably don't agree on a broad array of issues, but you are an interesting person to debate with; keep up the good work.


204 posted on 02/28/2007 6:41:41 PM PST by Peach
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To: Peach

Peach,


I give you credit for trying, but no matter how hard you work, you can never make a purse out of a sow's ear.


205 posted on 02/28/2007 6:43:03 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: calex59

you are nuts. a comment like that is akin to the crazy comments the left makes about "Bush fought the war for oil", or "so Cheney could make money for Halliburton".


206 posted on 02/28/2007 6:56:17 PM PST by oceanview
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To: SF Republican

It's fun to play with liberals. Wasn't it good for you?


207 posted on 02/28/2007 7:14:24 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Your take isn't worth the electrons you used to pontificate. I have argued with both those people, hard, and I damned sure don't care about being popular.

What I care about is presenting a position--most of which agree with yours, especially about Rudy, and with demonstrably superior intellectual backing--that presents the case without resorting to ad hominem or ridiculously overblown invective. That makes me an entrant into a popularity contest? Not to the non-slobberers.

208 posted on 02/28/2007 7:46:57 PM PST by jammer
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To: Peach
Sen. Brownback, Newt Gingrich, Michael Reagan, Ted Olson, Rep. Session and others like, support or endorse Rudy. I'm delighted to stand with them.

I like Rudy and I support his opposition to terrorism, so I've got two out of three on your list. So are you delighted to stand with me when I say I don't want Rudy to be the Republican nominee because he isn't a conservative candidate.

Liking Rudy and supporting an issue that Rudy supports does not equal an endorsement of him as nominee.

209 posted on 02/28/2007 8:04:23 PM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: flashbunny

flashbunny:

I love the RINO collector cards, but I'd like to see this taken a step further. Particularly with a "RINOs Most Wanted" deck of playing cards, similar to the Iraqi most wanted cards w/ Saddam prominently featured on the Ace of spades.

Sadly, it's perhaps not too hard to find--and rank--52 RINOs and put their dubious politics on playing cards. My apologies if you've been asked this already, but I would definitely buy a deck of these cards. :)


210 posted on 02/28/2007 8:18:09 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Hated by all NFL fans since 1990.)
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To: oceanview

It would have helped if you would have posted the comment in question, however, I made no crazy comments about Rudy, only factual statments that can be backed up. If you doubt anything I said, google Rudy and look up his records, check out his policies on illegals for instance. If you are refering to his contributing to 9/11 by his irresponsible actions regarding illegals my statements are spot on and a matter of record.


211 posted on 02/28/2007 8:46:11 PM PST by calex59
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To: calex59

last time I looked, the planes that hit the WTC took off from other states. your tie of Rudy to responsibility for 9/11, is way out of bounds.


212 posted on 02/28/2007 9:00:58 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Mr. K
Gosh, the main-stream-media loves Rudy so much...

Yeah, FrontPage Magazine is real mainstream. Real bunch of RINO's over there.

213 posted on 02/28/2007 9:32:23 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: kerryusama04

How 'bout the Smoky Backroom? LOL.


214 posted on 02/28/2007 9:40:39 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: jammer

At the same time I had a running discussion with Swamp and was a bit offended until I saw his posts to you and then realized he just is sitting on a little too much swamp-gas.


215 posted on 03/01/2007 8:38:46 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: SF Republican

lol. Yes.


216 posted on 03/01/2007 9:40:29 AM PST by jammer
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To: streetpreacher
How 'bout the Smoky Backroom? LOL.

Rudy is getting more exposure on FR that Anna Nicole Smith is getting on Greta's hour of power on FNC!

217 posted on 03/01/2007 1:45:43 PM PST by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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