Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
I have been flat on my back sick for a week. This is just stunning, isn't it?
But, when you trumpet against gay-rights and privacy rights you run the risk of being categorized on the far right lunatic fringe of the political spectrum. And, believe me, there are plenty of agitators just waiting to assail your assault on other's rights as nothing more than Westboro Lite. It will make your previous support of Pat Buchanan and Alan Keyes look like reasoned dialog when they start going for the SPLC quotations.
I am giving you this warning to prevent HRC from getting her material from the far right to attack whatever carcass the Republicans manage to let live...
You are simply being irresponsible when you throw the baby out with the bathwater, for a meaningless slogan.
His words and deeds betray him. I simply do not believe him. He has demonstrated that he has zero respect for the constitution. His belief in liberal positions on life and liberty issues are identical to Hillary's.
In that essay, Alan Keyes speaks to the truth.
The problem we're having this election cycle on FR, is the debate so far is focused on liberal pop culture politics and not on conservative politics, where it belongs.
RINOs, liberals and Rudybots --- what we called 30 years ago, the Rockefeller Republicans --- are bound and determined to see Rudy Giuliani as the GOP nominee. They've waited 30 years for this opportunity and they will make the most of it. After the 2006 election outcome and the failure of the GOP to get the job done, some people just want a winner. Even some conservatives have jumped on the bandwagon, forsaking their principles and integrity. Not to mention throwing away their commonsense.
I always knew liberals to be the enemy of conservatism. Around FR, supporting Rudy Giuliani is a form of political treason. Like it or not, its a betrayal of conservatism.
You took the chrome right off the bumper with that one!
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| Eating One's Own | Gaining the BIG MO. | Yes. Always Have, Always Will. | Yes. They walk among us. | ||||||
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| Maintaining Optimism for a Better America | Still trying. | No. Never have, never will. | No way. They walk among us and continue to breed. | ||||||
The Republican party is a "BIG TENT". It is NOT a 100% pure CONSERVATIVE PARTY and never has been; not even under the titular stewardship of Ronald Reagan.
It was Ronald Reagan who spoke about the place of compromise, in American politics. Those of us who talk about it, are the ones following Reagan's dictates and position.
No, that is your interpretation of what you think I am saying, and you are wrong.
We're all conservatives here. We support our country, support our president, support our military, support our constitution and support our traditional American values.
..pray you feel better soon...
EWWWWWWWWWW.
Problemis, Rudy is about 75 percent liberal and only about 25 percent conservative. Like Joe Lieberman.
The tent can't be stretched that far without ripping.
Agreed.
You romantic devil you. Two hearts beating as one.
My sweet Walter. Thank you. I feel better today than I have in a week.
DreamsofPolyCarp, Post #290:
I am not even registered Republican anymore. Here in NC, there is no registration for "libertarian" so I am independent. That said, I am fervently pro-life. THAT said, I am for the sovereignty of the states in deciding the issue, the way it was before ROE (legal issues which touch on personal morality, including porn, homosexuality, etc, are best decided locally). I believe in EVERY SINGLE PLANK of the Christian Right, I just don't believe in the usurpation of Federal power to do so. I believe that judges should have a "litmus test" regarding their views on federalism, not abortion. The Christian Right, which I grew up with, has whored itself out to the pursuit of political power on the federal level. It should repent and get back to the job of espousing the happy state of being cleansed by the grace of Jesus, and the personal responsibilities to repudiate the false god of more and more trinkets and toys, while hoping that they can get some guy in power who will stave off cultural collapse. This is worshiping a false god, or what the old faithful called "idolatry."
290 posted on 02/28/2007 1:14:39 PM CST by DreamsofPolycarp (Ron Paul in '08)
How old are you -- 16?
What a dumb thing to say!
Bill Simon is a liberal? I didn't know that!
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You may want to read this article about a recent ruling in Massachusetts:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54420
It's a tent that is going to be flat on the ground, because these folks kicked all the center poles out..
I object to his politics, and to his morals. His morals are deplorable, and I don't think he would make a good role model for kids. They've already got all the sleaze they need out of Hollywood. I don't respect him, and I don't trust him.
The office of the President needs to be filled by a man of impeccable character. Rudy's character is stained by his own actions!
THAT does not equate to "HATE."
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