Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
I posted directly to YOU that the site YOU post on refers to Jim Robinson as The Grifter.
Let's be clear about that. It would be a nice change if you told the truth once in a while.
That's your problem, not mine.
At least my posts make sense. :-)
What do you think protecting gay "rights" means? What do you think the liberals are pushing in every school district in America?
I can understand that. I haven't seen your name much on the Rudy threads. Maybe you are not aware that there is a group of posters who truly are Rudy haters?
Actually, it's your problem, on display. I couldn't care less.
Intermission time for me. LOL
OK...now I have read this thread up to post 180. Can I come in here, or do I need to go back and read all the rest of the replies first?
...and you're right, if Jim Robinson wants you logged off, he will do it....
..it's not my call.
But personally, I don't think I can pretend everything is normal on the ATRW thread, when you say such uncivil things to Jim Robinson on this one.
I love those folks there, but the values he holds are the values I respect....and I know many on that thread hold the same values ...
..but they have very full plates, worries, illnesses, etc., and don't realize the divisiveness that's brewing outside of ATRWland....It is a refuge, an oasis for them and I understand this.
But I also know there are others who are aligned with you against him here that share that thread...
..How you can disrespect Jim & yet post recipes & daily events by using this forum to take advantage of Jim's good grace and amazing patience is beyond me.
I cannot do this anymore.
That's not the way I'm wired!!
Then why did you post back?
Sorry, there is no room for compromise when compromise means giving up the fight for life and liberty.
Don't use that kind of language.
There is a group who spam threads, always say the same thing, name call, are vitriolic etc. They call Rudy supporters treasonous liberals. Are you aware of who they are?
I am not sure if he would or not overturn those executive orders like Clinton did with Reagan's orders when he entered office. To assume he would appoint conservative judges to the USSC is an assumption I am not confortable with, given his lavish praise of Ruth Bader Ginsburg in the past.
Come on in, Miss Marple. There were a couple of very thoughtful posts on this thread, but the rest has been....well, not worthy of taking the time to read. LOL
The CLOWNS at CP were the ones who used that term "The Grifter". Howlin's site had nothing to do with FR, JR, you, or anyone else here. You claim to have been there, read posts, you should know, without me explaining to you every bit of detail.
Stop acting like you don't know what the hell is going on.
As I already pointed out to you, I wasn't talking about compromising with liberals.
But unless you want to lose everything you've spent years working for, you, too, are going to have to compromise on something sooner or later.
In the big scheme of things, nobody.
Apparently you do, or you wouldn't have asked what I was babbling about.
You can come in here; maybe you'll mist the ugly things they say about CT.
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