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To: Cold Heat

Sorry, there is no room for compromise when compromise means giving up the fight for life and liberty.


851 posted on 02/28/2007 2:10:53 PM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: Jim Robinson
I have a serious question. If Rudy swore to appoint strict constructionist judges and not overturn anything that Bush had done by executive order concerning abortion, would that satisfy you? What about a similar statement on gun control...that it would be left as is?

I have no one I am supporting, and am simply trying to get people to discuss things civilly (although from the looks of things, this is probably a lost cause).

I will vote for whoever gets the nomination. I am not supporting anyone in the primaries as of now, and probably won't. My primary is pretty late and I am not doing any volunteer work this go around due to my husband's schedule.

So, do you think that sort of pledge would help him and change any minds? And here is another thing I would like your opinion on...if, despite all of the opposition we see here, Rudy still gets the nomination, will we not see a further marginalization of conservatives?

I truly am interested in your opinion. Thanks!

866 posted on 02/28/2007 2:17:58 PM PST by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: Jim Robinson; Delphinium; Gelato; Spiff; dirtboy; Reagan Man; Taxman; CounterCounterCulture; ...

"I'm fond of telling people that you never win an argument you don't make. So one of the reasons I think all these people tell us that they are pro-life in their hearts, and pro-life in the back room, but who refuse to be pro-life on the public platform with debate and discussion in this country -- we need to tell them that we don't have time for silence on the issues when the American people need persuading!

"I also think that if you never win an argument you don't make, how can you ever expect that you're going to find a winning candidate -- a candidate who stands for what you believe -- who stands on the right side of the issues -- when you are so busy looking to see if they'll win that you no longer care if they're right?

"Don't you think it's about time that we decided to make that leap of faith that was made when this country was founded? When they held the banner up and said, "this is the banner of human freedom." And they looked at the long sweep of history and there was nothing in that history to confirm that people could govern themselves.

"As a matter of fact, all the philosophers, and all the pundits, and all the experts stood against this great American experiment. They said that a people could not govern themselves -- that kings, and princes, and tyrants, and despots were the only people fit to govern.

"But they made a leap of faith, and they moved ahead. They didn't know if they would win or lose. They only knew that they had seen the right and they would stand for that right.

"And as we moved ahead in the history of this country, to the Civil War, and the Civil Rights movement, there were courageous hearts who were told at every junction that it was too soon, that it was wrong, that it was premature, that they could not win the battle against injustice.

"And yet they stood up not knowing what the outcome would be -- not knowing whether they would win or lose -- be victors or defeated -- only knowing in their hearts that they stood beneath the banner of God and His righteousness, and that He would make them whole, and they'd move ahead.

"That is the spirit that built this country. That's the spirit that built America. And yet in the back rooms of our politics, we are told that we cannot choose the right, that we can only choose the winner. But I'll tell you -- if enough Americans are willing to raise this banner upright in their homes, and in their businesses, and in their churches, and in their schools, then I'll tell you what we have seen time and again in American history.

"That when we have the courage to stand where we belong, it turns out that that is the place of victory. That is what I intend to do."

Alan Keyes
Austin Texas, 31 March 1995

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872 posted on 02/28/2007 2:20:33 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Sorry, there is no room for compromise when compromise means giving up the fight for life and liberty.

I wish it were that simple Jim, but political realities dictate that refusal to come to compromise in our form of governance results in political defeat which leads, in our case, to democrat control and eventual loss of both liberty and freedom.

All political parties have extremes, and they will gravitate to those extremes when there is nothing to balance them out.

Liberals move toward aggressive socialism which leads to Stalin, or Hitler.

Conservatives tend to lean toward autocracy and theocracy, which are equally dangerous to freedom and all four lead to eventual chaos and civil disruptions.

Political balance is critical and if one faction takes it's self out of the game, the other will dominate.

A statement of non-compromise, or political insolence as some call it, will cause the public to vote you off the island and allow the other to achieve control and shift left or right, as the case may be.

This is what will happen if we cannot come to agreement.

The pendulum will swing, and it is hell to get it back where it was, much less get it to change direction..

883 posted on 02/28/2007 2:24:59 PM PST by Cold Heat
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