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Is Driving Rinos out of the GOP Good for the Country? Thought-Provoking Must-Read for Rudy-Haters.
FR | April 16, 2002 | Common Tator

Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons

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To: DreamsofPolycarp

Well, the NC Freepers have been known to get together; I even had a lot of them here at the house one night! It was a lot of fun.

And I do know good posting when I see it; you cannot fool me!


681 posted on 02/28/2007 1:18:23 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I think Alan Keyes unnerves this bunch. Must be all that God-talk and stuff.


682 posted on 02/28/2007 1:18:24 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: Spiff
"The people who are damaging the party are those who oppose its core principles and who wish to steer the party for their own selfish political ends."

Bingo!

683 posted on 02/28/2007 1:18:40 PM PST by jonrick46
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Who here honestly thinks chipolte peppers taste good?


684 posted on 02/28/2007 1:18:44 PM PST by Artemis Webb (Be a REAL conservative. Stay home and pout so Hillary can win!)
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To: BykrBayb; BigSkyFreeper; Peach; PhiKapMom
Does this mean that the anti-FReeper group Howlin started is now open for discussion again?

Why, do you want to be proven a liar once again?

The last time you did that, you got banned; want to try again?

685 posted on 02/28/2007 1:19:56 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Cold Heat

There is a lot of energy surrounding the Rudy campaign and I think people will find out how popular he is in the months ahead and we will get some of the Republicans back in the fold that were driven out along with Indys that we need their support to win.


686 posted on 02/28/2007 1:20:06 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- RudyforPresident2008@yahoogroups.com or http://www.rudygforamerica.com)
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To: Howlin
Especially since a lot of them are really Libertarians and/or came to be registered GOPers only a few scant years ago and then there are the other fringers who push the fringe of the fringe of the fringe Constitution Party.
687 posted on 02/28/2007 1:20:07 PM PST by nopardons
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To: EternalVigilance
I think Alan Keyes unnerves this bunch. Must be all that God-talk and stuff.

lol
It's not the God talk.
It's his Money walk.

688 posted on 02/28/2007 1:20:10 PM PST by Rex Anderson
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To: EternalVigilance
Hey EV!

I talked to you on CP before I got myself banned...LOL

How was it? Don't remember......(something about social security, IIRC) eh?

Memory is a funny thing.......

689 posted on 02/28/2007 1:20:24 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: All

Care to take a break from the bickering?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1792867/posts


690 posted on 02/28/2007 1:20:42 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (RINO = Rudy Is Not Ours!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Yeah, sure.


691 posted on 02/28/2007 1:21:04 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Howlin
The last time you did that, you got banned; want to try again?

Ms. Intimidation is banning people today? Who knew?

692 posted on 02/28/2007 1:21:20 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: Guenevere
nope.....nada....not at all....uh uh....

I take umbrage to having my patriotism and my conservatism questioned.

As would any red-blooded American conservative. It has never happened before in my entire life.

You didn't like your patriotism questioned, but apparently it is just dandy if mine is.

Because oh, that's completely different.

693 posted on 02/28/2007 1:21:22 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: Howlin
I understand a Keyes' operative was seen at a Hunter event a couple of weeks ago; troubling, IMO.

I'm not certain Barbara Coe is a Keyes op although she buys her mailing lists from him, I believe. Doesn't matter though, she was there with the mariachi band.

694 posted on 02/28/2007 1:22:04 PM PST by harrowup (Gore will end the Hillary-Barack sideshow by announcing in November 2007)
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To: Jim Robinson
If you will go back and read the contract you will discover that it had very little to do with actually advancing conservative causes and more to do with simply reforming the congress and certain government entities, ie, rearranging the deck chairs.

They didn't even rearrange the deck chairs, they kicked them over.

695 posted on 02/28/2007 1:22:08 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Sloth
If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
That is simply false. How many DINOs can you name in the U.S. Senate (and you're going to have to prove to me that Webb is one)?

Also, the most recent presidential election proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that you do not have to nominate a moderate or even likeable candidate to be electable. Kerry is an out-of touch Massachusetts rich guy with a crazy foreign wife, an admitted war criminal who actually *ran* on his 4-month military record (that takes nerve), and about as far left as anybody in the Senate, and he STILL almost pulled it off.

I have to believe you have a point. To me the question is never whether the Republican is to the right of Ronald Reagan - that has never happened, and he won easily - the crucial issue is whether the Republican can handle the pressure from "objective" journalism.

Dispose, first of all, of the notion that journalism is divided. If anyone claims that journalism is objective, that implies that journalism is unified - in the same way that the New York Yankees and the Boston Red Sox are unified, in that they agree on the umpires and all the other American League business that they get together on. The Yankees and the Red Sox only compete within curcumscribed boundaries. And ABC News only competes with The New York Times or CBS News within specific boundaries.

The claim of objectivity of all journalism implies that the reporter from ABC will not say that the reporter from CBS isn't objective, no matter what. It doesn't matter if CBS promotes obvious crude forgeries, ABC will never compete with CBS on grounds of reliability. It simply isn't done.

And dispose of the claim that journalism is objective or conservative. Journalism features bad news, and that ingrained perspective inherently criticizes the people who are responsible for getting things done. Farmers put alar on apples, oil companies pollute and charge too much, police are brutal and ineffective, soldiers torture prisoners and the DoD is too expensive and not able to suppress all violence in Iraq. Everything that naturally makes a "great story" for journalism also is fodder for anticapitalist, antivalor Democrats.

The challenge faced by a conservative presidential candidate is to represent the people who actually do things - prominently including white men - and defeat the party of criticism and second guessing of the middle class - IOW, the party of journalism. The reason that journalism is left-wing is painfully obvious - leftism is simply whatever plays into the predelictions of journalism the best.


696 posted on 02/28/2007 1:22:19 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Rex Anderson

ROFLOL!!! You mean flying first class all the time and not paying some of his campaign staffers?


697 posted on 02/28/2007 1:22:35 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- RudyforPresident2008@yahoogroups.com or http://www.rudygforamerica.com)
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To: Howlin

Is this not your statement?

To: Guenevere

Compromise is the ONLY answer because there are not enough of us to win an election.

Keep saying there are and you'll be in the minority forever.

And where will your principles get you then?


427 posted on 02/28/2007 12:13:33 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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698 posted on 02/28/2007 1:22:57 PM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: Cold Heat

Bookmark. :)


699 posted on 02/28/2007 1:22:58 PM PST by Chena
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To: Howlin

I didn't get banned for lying. I got banned for posting the proof, which contained information you later decided was private. You could always request they restore the posts, if you're so sure others will interpret your anti-freeper comments to be lies by me.


700 posted on 02/28/2007 1:23:04 PM PST by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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