Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
Then get JR to tell me himself that I'm not qualified to have the have the same opinion he has. That won't change the fact that Rudy is not qualified to be president, but I'll stop posting that opinion on JR's site, when and if he tells me to. In the mean time, try to remember whose site this is.
Your loss.
Don't forget about all the 100K+ fines Keyes has to pay back for those pesky *mistakes* that caught up with him.
Where have you been? That's an outstanding post. All of it.
That could be the kiss of death for Hunter.
Everybody compromises. Even Reagan compromised.
What a great post. (#385)
I see those folks you mentioned more as 'opponents'. They are not pretending to be something else. Fifth columnist pretend to be something other than what they are in order to change the direction of the group they are pretending to be part of.
You're not kidding. This site is much dumber for the loss. Common Tator was incredibly insightful.
Alan Keyes is the Charlie Brown of politics.
I don't tell JR nuttin'. I will tell you to suck lemons, though.
Amen. Thanks for putting into words what so many here are saying in Freepmail.
No, Dems won because the picture was painted that the Repubs in congress were either dirty, or, knew about the dirty ones and did nothing about them. And, people couldn't support that.
The problem is it's hard to track those nefarious endeavors, isn't it?
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Exactly. Giuliani is not a conservative, and we are not in the last few months before the primary. Promoting his campaign is a complete surrender of conservative ideals.
I hope sanity is restored soon.
Being a verteran has no bearing whatsoever on whether a person is a troll or not. There are plenty of Viet Nam Vets not worthy of much respect at all, like Jon Carry.
I don't necessarily put 68 grunt ito that category, though.
I appreciate that....Thanks...
The problem with your analysis is this.
Those same people you would kick to the curb are 99.9% likely to also support all of your other platforms.
But, kick them to the curb if you like. The Republican party can remain the minority party. One Liberal Party in power is enough.
At least that party I know is my enemy.
BTW social issues aside, my support or lack of, for the current front runner has little or nothing to do with his marriage/divorces, abortion or whether or not he supports gay marriage.
It has everything to do with his LACK of support for the one thing that insures the People of the United States have the ability to defend themselves against their Government, AND his insistant support of the Illegal Invasion of our Country.
The other issues are important to be sure, but they are not deciding factors for me.
They are for others, and those the Republican Party will also lose if they continue down this path of "Just like the Dims but better" path they seem to be on.
Exactly. Just like the pro-abort liberals who disguise themselves as conservative Republicans in order to support a pro-abort liberal on a conservative forum. Many of these same fifth column disruptors spent their time here in 2003 discouraging support for conservative Republican McClintock in the California Recall Election and supporting liberal RINO Schwartzenkennedy. There still here and they're still discouraging support for the conservative candidates while promoting the most liberal ones. Yet they CLAIM to be conservative Republicans. Their behavior exposes them for the fifth columnists that they are.
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