Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
Getting RINOs out of the GOP sounds good for the Party and the Country. Strength in 1994 took the Party from a weak, back-seat position to a leadership one. Being weak now puts us in the trunk.
Subsequently, the Great Society and the McGovern movement drove the social conservatives into the GOP camp. It was these Reagan Democrats who made the GOP a majority. Now the Rudybots are doing all in their power to throw us out so they can return the party to the glory days of Gerald Ford and Nelson Rockefeller. If Rudy gets the nomination, they will have succeeded.
Come on. You've got a 1999 signup date. There's something seriously amiss with your claimed lack of knowledge. Common Tator was a well-known FR liberal and a prolific poster on this site for years.
I respect your opinion. The 'hook' line in the title refers to a small number of members who have recently taken the tone of discussion well-below a polite level.
Common Tator can write well, but his argument does not hold water.
It is based on his own opinions of the electorate. Real pols show that a majority of american hold conservative views (sorry, I dotn have a source, offhand) and so it follows that a clear conservative voice always wins. (Witness Renaldus Magnus and Newt Gingrich in 2002)
Yes it is.
Actually, it was Jimmy Carter that drove Democrats to Reagan.
Simply
America should have two different parties for choice.
RINOs turn the GOP into Democrats.
RINOs make elections win-win for liberals.
RINOs are bad for the America.
I'm told that Rooty was a McGovernite.
If Bush couldn't drive me away from the Republican Party, some hot-heads on the Internet sure as hell won't.
Dude, I'm lucky if I can remember what I had for breakfast yesterday!! And for the record, I was a lurker since 1998....
BTTT! I would, however, don your asbestos suit, as I'm sure there will be many FReepers who will be quite "insulted" by your (and CTs) points here.
Nice repost Al.
Now, you expect the same forbearance and team play for a candidate who is opposed to the positions that we hold inviolable? You really think that's going to happen with this political world turned upside down?
And let's be clear. It's the Republican Party who is doing the turning.
The Rudy supporters cannot understand this concept.
Can you give a link to the original post?
Too bad he left......
Why does it matter anyways? Its the ideas expressed that are relevant...
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