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To: TommyDale
It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society."

Subsequently, the Great Society and the McGovern movement drove the social conservatives into the GOP camp. It was these Reagan Democrats who made the GOP a majority. Now the Rudybots are doing all in their power to throw us out so they can return the party to the glory days of Gerald Ford and Nelson Rockefeller. If Rudy gets the nomination, they will have succeeded.

22 posted on 02/28/2007 8:10:33 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: madprof98

Actually, it was Jimmy Carter that drove Democrats to Reagan.


27 posted on 02/28/2007 8:12:15 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: madprof98
Subsequently, the Great Society and the McGovern movement drove the social conservatives into the GOP camp.

I'm told that Rooty was a McGovernite.

29 posted on 02/28/2007 8:12:44 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: madprof98
If Rudy gets the nomination, they will have succeeded.

If Rudy gets the nomination, the DemocRATS will win the Presidency. He's too much of a gun-grabbing, pro-gay, abortionistic statist to win on a national level. He can try to reinvent himself, but his record speaks for itself.

108 posted on 02/28/2007 9:42:56 AM PST by meyer (Bring back the Contract with America and you'll bring back the Republican majority.)
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To: madprof98; Torie
Subsequently, the Great Society and the McGovern movement drove the social conservatives into the GOP camp. It was these Reagan Democrats who made the GOP a majority. Now the Rudybots are doing all in their power to throw us out so they can return the party to the glory days of Gerald Ford and Nelson Rockefeller. If Rudy gets the nomination, they will have succeeded.

You didn't have to agree with Reagan on social issues to vote for him. Northeastern liberal and moderate Republicans voted for him. And you didn't have to agree with him on economic or constitutional questions either. Southern and Catholic Democrats were also for Reagan. To vote for Reagan, you had to A) want to stand up to the Soviets and B) want to put recession and inflation behind us.

I don't know if Rudy would make a good or a bad president. I certainly disagree with him about a lot of things. What people are responding to in Giuliani, though, is the same kind of broad, popular, patriotic appeal that Reagan enjoyed. Those Reagan Democrats, if they're still there, aren't going to vote for Duncan Hunter, but it looks as though they may vote for Giuliani.

Whatever Rudy is or isn't, he certainly isn't John Lindsay, or even Nelson Rockefeller. It may not look like that the further you get from New York, but in the context of local politics he was very much the anti-Lindsay, and at least a little bit the anti-Rockefeller.

527 posted on 02/28/2007 12:39:09 PM PST by x
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