Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
Thats the point i made earlier. first we are zealots and self rightous and then we are disgusting and unprincipled.
We cant both, ya know:)
I think anyone with an ounce of common sense knows we are all just trying to have some fun and get away from the bickering and political chaos.
We know how sweet you are and Ill defend your honor!
The term abolitionist comes to mind as example of how Jim used the word abortionist ... some people just like to find fault and be insulted.
got coffee here too. no fudge bars, but i got popcycles! help ease the pain a little:)
Our shwans girl was suppose to be here yesterday, i think ive been stood up! drats.
I figured as much.
I've had a lovely life, unblemished by lascivious, libidinous, licentious, dangerous, reprobative behavior. That you revel in such past days, proves that you still haven;t reached a level of maturity. And it is disengenuous and hypocritical for any of you to condemn anyone else's past behavior.
And it's really a laugh riot, when so many on that thread were talking about what they were drinking while posting! These same people are the ones who call me a drunk and/or talk about what the assume I am drinking when I post. The assumptions are ALL wrong, since I almost never drink an alcoholic beverage. LOL
No, you didn't want me on that thread. I have no stories about being drunk, etc. to tell and do not care to associate with people who enjoy talking/posting about such things.
I haven't picked a candidate yet. It's too far out. But I do know that I will support a conservative candidate and settle for a semi-conservative candidate if I have to. I will not support a liberal no matter what party he or she is in.
I haven't picked a candidate yet. It's too far out. But I do know that I will support a conservative candidate and settle for a semi-conservative candidate if I have to. I will not support a liberal no matter what party he or she is in.
If you can discredit the messinger...
Well im sorry you feel that way, really.
I wasnt referring to you specifically as calling anyone a religious zealot, it was general-if you took the time to read my post.
It wouldnt have mattered in the least, if you didnt have any simular stories to tell. you could have shared anything about your life. thats what the thread was about. maybe you missed that.
Thats a whole slew of big nasty words. just because we can laugh at ourselves and not beat ourselves up over past events shows we have grown up. but thats a matter of opinion.
Calm down, relax-ive never accused you of drinking while posting. and if its untrue, why would it matter at all to you?
I think someone just needs a big hug:-)
no way, im NOT sharing-besides it might be confused as being lude or dangerous. i have a reputation to uphold LOL
I let up on you on an earlier thread because I thought your head had exploded:
Delphinium: "I'll pray that God will give you understanding of the Word that you just preached to me"
Ok here's your chance to witness to the unbeliever. If Rudy is so evil, how could Pete Sessions endorse him? Extra credit if you don't need to call the santimony squad to answer for ya.
calling out the sanctimony squad BUMP
Hey youngjim,
Are you just having a bad day?
And I've been "like this" all of my life; thank God! Good breeding always tells. ;^)
That "your" side will not admit into evidence these words, shows your argument to be tendentious, intellectually dishonest, and a specious equivocation of the elements of the tort.
Now I'm not going to explain all of these big words to you, but until you stop framing the argument to prove your point (begging the question), you cannot have a civil debate on this matter.
Your mother acted like that too?
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