Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
Our problem on this board is what constitutes a moderate. I mean, which issue are they moderate ON? If they are moderate on one single issue which Tancredo has issued an ideological injunction against, that individual is set on by so called "pure" (terrorists aren't our problem, MEXICANS ARE!!) conservatives.
This childish, churlish behavior is rationalized as "fighting the two party cartel" and gettng us "back to our conservative roots" (trans: the original thirteen colonies, with a hundred foot was around them) and the all time favorite "If electing a Democrat to the White House is what it takes to shake up the conservatives - usually with the injunction that those shook up conservatives take us back to our roots - then so be it." That one is my favorite. It says it all. You shouldn't have to have more than a room temperature IQ to realize that every time you read that sentiment, earnestly expressed by a self labelled "neocon", you are seeing the ancient tactic of division. Divided we fall.
Divided we fall. These are alleged conservatives dividing us in order to destroy us. That puts self-labelled neocons trying to divide and conquer ALL conservatives at the cost of our lives and our security as a nation squarely in the enemy camp with al Qaeda and the rest of the Democrats.
Please don't post to me any longer, and I won't post to you.
You are stinky.
..and just what qualifies one to be labeled a "Rudy Hater"?
My crowd? You mean those of us who aren't political whores like you?
You're delusional. And offensive to boot.
Unlike you, I'm not trying to DRIVE anybody anywhere; and if this "campaign" of yours turns out like all the rest of them, hell is where you'll end up.
"Those who join us in all sincerity, we welcome. Those who do not favor our cause, we do not expect to enter our ranks in any case." - Barry Goldwater, '64 Convention
Political whores? LOL... that's a laugh, coming from the Rooty Tootie Fresh 'n Fruity crowd.
Since you've been gone, I guess you didn't get the memo that FR is still a conservative website, notwithstanding your best efforts over the years.
Amen! Bravo! What you said! I agree 100 percent.
They are apparently doing a good job of it as well.
THEN WHY DIDN'T HE RUN AGAINST HER LAST YEAR FOR HER SENATE SEAT?
Fine with me. Your company is no longer pleasant or edifying.
"IS DRIVING CONSERVATIVES OUT OF THE GOP GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY? THOUGHT-PROVOKING MUST-READ FOR RUDY-LOVERS."
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It's worked wonders wherever it's been tried... for the left.
Yes, you are a paid political whore; everybody here knows that; and everybody here knows what you're doing on this forum.
We've already settled on WHAT you are; what's remaining to be determined is what your PRICE is to destroy the GOP.
I'm not wrong.
I said there are twice as many conservatives as liberals. I said nothing about "moderates."
Answer to your question: Yes.
Point out one of a hundred self-evident points on which Giuliani would make a better nominee for the Democrat Party than the GOP.
They remind me of the aliens in the movie Independance Day, moving from planet to planet, sucking the life out of it. They have no "planet" of their own, so they latched on to the GOP; now that the GOP is moderating, they intend to destroy it, as they have done every single thing they've ever touched.
Simply stated. But to the point.
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