Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
I'm sure there will be many current and Gulf War vets there also.
I am positive the so called Benedict Arnold Vets against the Iraq war, WON"T be there for the other side. They don't have the nerve to face us as the TRUE traitors that they are.
Keep your eyes on the "Gathering of Eagles" web site that sponsors us. You'll be as good as there.
I on the other hand see a debacle in Nov 2008 if we do not nominate someone with cross-party appeal like Rudy - and the result of that would be worse than surrender - that would mean occupation by a power hell-bent on imposing a foreign ideology (Marxism in sheep's clothing) on the country. And you know her name.
I'm with Mia T. on this. Hitlary is coming, and we better focus on the real enemy or may God save us.
Rudy will not take our rights away, nor try to, but SHE already has tried it before and will again - only this time she will have the reins of POWER in HER hands.
Don't miss seeing the forest for the trees Jim. What's coming down the pike from the left is scary as shale (so to speak).
Can you two please go get a room ; )
LOL! Yep!
You're one of 'em.
BLUSH BLUSH
LOL
Sheesh people we got over a year before we cast the first ballots....can we maybe just take this boiling pot off the burner until then.
FR won't survive this bloodletting.
good for thee, but not for me?
LOL! GOOD to see you, stranger!!!
"Can you two please go get a room ; )"
I would, but Big Sky Freeper drove up first...
As far as any known candidate for president is concerned, I believe that Rudy is the ONLY one capable of uniting America and making the case for fighting and winning the WOT, to the bitter end. I do not believe that he would try to micromanage the WOT and having very up close and personal knowledge of what an actual attack is like, he has far more insight into what is need, when/if another one occurs here; not to mention what targeted places need NOW, before another attack happens.
If a Dem is elected president, then yes, I do think that the possibility of many Americans dying on American soil is far more likely, than if Rudy is president.
Thank you for that fine representation Colonel!
LOL!
You're welcome. (Please check your Freepmail) ;>)
I'm gonna give my computer chair a rest.
Interesting arguments, thanx for posting.
See also my post #1394 re: Rudy and the WOT. I note that he has thus far not replied.
Woman sure slap you around a lot......I guess you dig it.
It will. It has before. But you are dead on right about taking the pot off the burner. One year is several lifetimes in politics. We are a LONG way from 2008.
This is a repost from yesterday's contentious thread:
An Homage to Animal House:
youngjim: Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our freeper party guests - we did.
[winks at Jim Rob and socons]
youngjim: But you can't hold a whole forum responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole pajama media network? And if the whole pajama media network is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our political institutions in general? I put it to you, EV-- isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen! [Leads the Freepers out of the hearing, all humming the Star-Spangled Banner]
future DU dummy Niedermeyer: And most recently of all, a Freeper bash-fest thread was held from which we have received more than two dozen reports of individual acts of perversion SO profound and disgusting that decorum prohibits listing them here.
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