Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: Common Tator in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
Thank goodness, but I'm skeptical. Too much spotlight to turn down.
Plus, EV is on the record for not supporting John Cox, and he certainly isn't bumping any Hunter threads, so it is perplexing.
They'd have no problem if weren't supporting a pro-abortion, anti-gun candidate and therefore turning traitor to conservatism.
You are now insinuating that Rudy is gay?
How low can you sink?
Maybe some hacks are not paid very well, and grousing.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/667033/posts?page=58#58
I can't speak for EV or Keyes. It was just my opinion. He'd be nuts to enter the race.
The people are speaking. Anyone around here listening?
It's gossip mongering, period.
He doesn't even "know" people that "know" that stuff.
I'm only going to enter this thread to say "ditto" to that post.
Of course, you do realize that the same thing is said about Alan Keyes, right?
Sorry I forgot to ping Cinnamon Girl
It's interesting that you say you wouldn't vote for Whitman since a convincing case could be made that she's more conservative than Giuliani.
You think? The charges made about Rudy's people were just so suffused with specificity, so how could that be?
Nah. He's pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-constitution.
They hate homos. They throw it out like we say damn.
They go Westboro every time!
What I would do 'FOR' Whitman would be more appropriately discussed in a gourmet dining forum. But I still would not vote for her for President...
;>)
I voted for Reagan in 1980, having seen what damage Carter did, and have voted Republican ever since.
Are you holding it against me that I wasn't born conservative and had to convert? Don't you WANT people to change theier minds and vote conservative? After all, Reagan himself was at one time a democrat.
I didn't have any idea who he is but anyone that tells me I want to marry Rudy along with other snide remarks doesn't deserve my respect. Been around the AF for almost 30 years and trust me I know some really good generals/colonels and some not so good. BTW, I never posted to him on this thread and the comments came out of blue.
I find it interesting how tender some are on this thread about being in Giuliani's employ. Things that make a guy go "hmmmm..."
Not you, of course...
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