Why Bother Electing Pro-Gun, Pro-Family Candidates Anywhere? (The Rudophile Philosophy)

Free Republic - TitansAFC ^ | 2-10-07 | TitansAFC

[MichiganConservative]

Once election day comes, we have to put country and our safety first. Be sure to vote and vote Republican, even if our nominee is not your favorite person in the world.

Good thing GWB has an R next to his name. He's really concerned about taking care of the invasion of illegals from Mexico because of that. Good thing there aren't any murderers or child molesters coming across the Mexican border illegally.

[Reagan Man]

Just out of curiosity, where do you guys live?

[goodonevirginia]

You said-
Good thing GWB has an R next to his name. He's really concerned about taking care of the invasion of illegals from Mexico because of that. Good thing there aren't any murderers or child molesters coming across the Mexican border illegally.

OK, I get it. You're not happy with George Bush. So you would be happier with Algore or John Kerry?

[freekitty]

They didn't think it was possible to impeach Gov Gray of Ca.

[narses]

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[narses]

So you are doing what?

[sam_paine]

No Hildy, we don't know that the "righteous-right" will pull the R lever when it comes down to Rudy vs. Hillary, sadly.

And I think the politicians and strategists are ALSO learning that the social conservatives cannot be counted on to pull that lever for them, so in that respect, pat yourself on the back.

Unfortunately, congresscritters being what they have always been, are justifiably deciding that the only way to build a winning percentage today is to court further left and avoid touching the THIRD RAIL of social conservatives, abortion.

In 1980, there was such a thing as a social conservative democrat, aka "Reagan Democrats." Show me one today?

So, you can try to train the puppies in congress to follow your lead by letting go the leash, but I don't think you're going to get the result you want.

Thus I have a question for you Titan-think alikes. Is this "teach them a lesson" thing a suicide pact for the country? After 8-yrs of Hillary-care, where abortion-on-demand and empryonic stem cell harvesting is paid for by the federal government, do you think you'll be in a better position to get Roe v Wade overturned?

[MichiganConservative]

So you would be happier with Algore or John Kerry?

Since I don't believe things will get better any time soon, fear tactics don't work on me. I believe this country is destined to just get worse and I think it will be a very long time before things get better, if ever. I would be happier with Badnarik or Peroutka. But the sheeple and I disagree on a lot of things.

[Rodney King]

It may be he case that in the end Rudy is the candidate and the only one who can beat Hillary. If that time comes I will vote for him. What bothers me is that hear here we are, way before the election, and we are already supposed to cast aside out beliefs for this guy.

[narses]

Well, if it is Rudy -V- Hillary (and I doubt that very much), from a social conservative POV, there is little or no difference. Rudy will appoint his left-wing East Coast white shoe law firm buddies. Hillary will too. No thanks. If the GOP wants my vote, they need to find a main-stream conservative, NOT a flaming gungrabber like Rudy.

[narses]

If the GOP turns it back on the Conservative, I will turn my back on them.

If the GOP turns it back on the Conservative, I will turn my back on them.

If the GOP turns it back on the Conservative, I will turn my back on them.

Indeed. If they turn on life, I will turn on them as well.

[NRA2BFree]

There is no point to electing Pro-Family, Pro-Life, Pro-Free Speech, Pro-Second Amendment candidates anymore. At least, that's what we're essentially being told by the Rudy Giuliani for President crowd.

Well, it's plain and simple. They are WRONG. Period! End of story!

[TitansAFC]

---"do you think you'll be in a better position to get Roe v Wade overturned?"---

I think I can declare with 100% confidence that either Presidency would result in Pro-Roe nominees, as both candidates hold the right to abortion as a fundamental human right not to be infringed upon. To expect otherwise from either candidate is foolishness. Take a look at Rudy's judicial appointments in NYC - not a Republican among them.

If the GOP is comfortable nominating Rudy Giuliani as its standard-bearer, then I am no longer comfortable with the GOP.

I will not vote for Rudy Giuliani under any circumstance, and in both the Primaries and General Election, I will work to see to his defeat for the greater good of the causes I believe in.

The "fear Hillary" slogan doesn't work on me when Rudy is the other option, as I fear Rudy more. Is a little political suicide needed? Ask me after the GOP nominee is named. If it's Rudy, you're damn right I'll help see the party commit suicide rather than all of the causes I believe in.

[zbigreddogz]

Pardon any spelling errors

Do I have to pardon your logic errors as well?

[PzLdr]

Fiscal [non-social] conservatives are Rockerfeller Republicans without the Country Club.

[TitansAFC]

......."Look into my eyes..................................Roberts and Alito.....................Roberts and Alito........................"

Logic errors, eh? Must be a Rudophile. When people disagree with Rudophiles, it always seems to be the default position of Rudophiles that they simply "don't understand," or have, "bad logic." No such thing as coming to a logical conclusion against voting for Rudy in their minds.

Well, it is possible to do so, regardless of Rudophile rantings.

[narses]

Logic appears to be an area of little or no expertise for you. What did you see as an 'error' and what causes you to think that?

[sockmonkey]

When the 2008 election happen, you know damn well you will push the lever for the guy with the R next to his name because the person with the D is 1000 times more dangerous.

Not everyone on FR was a born and raised Republican. Some of us got here when the Democratic party went totally left, with the exception of what I'd call the few remaining moderate Democrats.

Now that a lot of the Republican candidates are further left than than what some Democrats used to be, and many elected Republicans, especially in my home state of Texas, seem to have turned into Democrats despite the R behind their name, it leaves me in quite a quandry as far as casting my vote for a candidate who is in step with issues that are important to me.

[narses]

Well said.

[Myrddin]

Good coverage of the issues. I was listening to Glen Beck yesterday, and he was playing Johnny One Note on the abortion issue. No mention of the rabid anti-gun record of Giuliani. Too bad we have so few good conservatives running.