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Why Bother Electing Pro-Gun, Pro-Family Candidates Anywhere? (The Rudophile Philosophy)
Free Republic - TitansAFC ^ | 2-10-07 | TitansAFC

Posted on 02/10/2007 1:39:11 PM PST by TitansAFC

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To: TitansAFC

Popcorn Bump...


61 posted on 02/10/2007 3:32:10 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: sockmonkey
Not everyone on FR was a born and raised Republican. Some of us got here when the Democratic party went totally left,

Bingo. Left is left no matter the letter behind the name.

62 posted on 02/10/2007 3:36:59 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: TitansAFC
Well done. I cannot seem to work up any true enthusiasm for Rudy because of Second Amendment issues..... and in fact, Rudy may cause more harm to the Second Amendment than Hillary, since the Republicans in Congress and the Senate would actually stand up to Hillary.

I'd hate a Hillary presidency in every other way, but in this one very-important-to-me issue, Hillary would be (gasp) better.

63 posted on 02/10/2007 3:38:02 PM PST by Lazamataz (Global warming turns people gay.)
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To: sockmonkey
many elected Republicans, especially in my home state of Texas, seem to have turned into Democrats despite the R behind their name, it leaves me in quite a quandry as far as casting my vote for a candidate who is in step with issues that are important to me.

Truth. We seem to have a choice between a tub of sh*t and a swimming pool of sh*t.

All that differs is the quantity.

64 posted on 02/10/2007 3:39:23 PM PST by Lazamataz (Global warming turns people gay.)
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To: TitansAFC; narses; Hildy
If the GOP wants my vote, they need to find a main-stream conservative,

Very well. I think I understand your position completely. You'll know what you want when you see it, and you ain't seen it in a while.

I think the Dems understand it and see it as a wonderful oppty to divide and conquer.

I think the GOP recognizes that there is nothing they can do to recover your vote either.

So everyone takes a step left. Wonderful.

BTW, I note that you say "they need to find." Is that how it works in your mind?

65 posted on 02/10/2007 3:47:00 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: TitansAFC

Good article. It perfectly captures my view.

We'd be better off with lefty Hillary, because then there would be some vigilance and defense from the right. Rudy would be like boiling the frog so gradually, he never notices to jump out of the pot.

Yes, we'd be better off with Hillary. (I'll vote 3rd party, however.)


66 posted on 02/10/2007 3:47:05 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: BMIC
"It sure does seem that the GOP is turning a deaf ear to Social Conservatives..."

It should be obvious by now, the political world doesn't produce a Washington, Lincoln or Reagan for the benefit of social conservatives every 4 years. So you try to do the best you can with the choices presented that do the least amount of damage to the country.

Sometimes a great leader emerges, and the country benefits immensely - but the great leaders usually emerge in times of great conflict. As of today, Giuliani is the only candidate out there with that sense of leadership.

67 posted on 02/10/2007 3:49:18 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: sam_paine
I think the GOP recognizes that there is nothing they can do to recover your vote either.
If so, they haven't paid attention. Good, solid conservatives often win. East coast liberals pretending often lose. See the Club for Growth and their track record.
68 posted on 02/10/2007 3:53:06 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: processing please hold
Bingo. Left is left no matter the letter behind the name.

I was at a relative's Birthday Party today-there were probably fifty or sixty family members there spanning three generations. When the talk finally got around to "talking about the candidates for President 08", the Democrats & Republicans seemed to agree on one thing-there were serious flaws in both parties annointed frontrunners.

69 posted on 02/10/2007 3:53:21 PM PST by sockmonkey
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To: All
Notice behind all the snarling how when the question becomes Hillary -vs- Rudy, our side splits and loses a great many to third parties.

That means President Hillary and that is why Rudy should not get the nomination.

70 posted on 02/10/2007 3:53:42 PM PST by Enosh
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To: Lazamataz; Spiff

Rudy has a track record. So does Hillary. They look an awful lot alike. Spiff has a chart.


71 posted on 02/10/2007 3:54:23 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Enosh

Double plus bingo!


72 posted on 02/10/2007 3:54:49 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: sockmonkey
there were serious flaws in both parties annointed frontrunners.

It wouldn't surprise me coming from a dim, but, coming from a republican is what can't be swallowed.

73 posted on 02/10/2007 3:57:07 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: lilylangtree
We want a candidate that (1) we can trust, (2) reflect our principles and beliefs [and presumably does what for the large set of people who do not share "our" principles and beliefs], (3) and make a country strong and economically prosperous.

This thread makes it quite clear that "we" (1) do not believe in a common set of principles, and (2) some don't even think "Hillary" is anything more than a scare tactic of the not-quite-really-conservatives.

Sooo.....who is the candidate that satisfies you?

74 posted on 02/10/2007 3:57:31 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

Sooo.....who is the candidate that satisfies you?


75 posted on 02/10/2007 3:58:01 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: processing please hold

Scary!!

Put anyone with an "R" in the presidency. We just wanna win.

Life (real world) imitating art (reality tv, sports, etc.)

Rah! Rah! Sis! Boom! Bah!


76 posted on 02/10/2007 3:58:10 PM PST by TheInvisibleMan
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To: TitansAFC

What you're seeing is a repeat of history, i.e. the disintegration and demise of the Whig Party.


77 posted on 02/10/2007 4:07:57 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: TheInvisibleMan
Put anyone with an "R" in the presidency. We just wanna win.

I believe that's how some on here view it. That's indeed scary.

Rah! Rah! Sis! Boom! Bah!

Let me go get my little girls pom poms and I'll join you, however, I'll leave it to you to do the jumping up and down. :-)

78 posted on 02/10/2007 4:11:26 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: freemike; TitansAFC; EternalVigilance; MichiganConservative; goodonevirginia; alisasny
I would rather fight in the political arena to stop a president from advancing left wing social agendas, while feeling safer from terrorists, than to fear both terrorists and a dictator-like president pledging to "take things from me!"

Mike, Aren't you listening to what they are saying?

There really is a group of people that at the same time admire Thatcher and Reagan, that wish abortion were illegal, and yet, think that Hillary is either a potemkin candidate created by country club Republicans to scare us into voting GOP-no-matter-what, and thus they don't worry about her, -or- if she is for real, and she is elected, then they will be on the high ground of having taught the country a lesson.

These are people that have decided that if Hillary and Rudy are social liberals, then their other stances on WOT, military funding, taxes, fairness doctrine, nationailed healthcare, nationalized oil industires, EPA regulation, UN-global-test-mandates, UNICEF control of child abuse laws....etc... are totally meaningless.

This is the landscape a candidate must operate under these days.

The Dems couldn't ask for a more wonderful oppourtunity, I think.

79 posted on 02/10/2007 4:13:22 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

Sooo.....who is the candidate that satisfies you?


80 posted on 02/10/2007 4:25:04 PM PST by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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