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"Gov. Rick Perry's Huge Mistake"
The Collins Report ^ | Feb. 9, 2007 | Donna Garner

Posted on 02/09/2007 11:23:00 AM PST by jmaroneps37

Governor Perry has made a huge mistake in signing an executive order which mandates that all sixth-grade girls entering public schools by the fall of 2008 must be vaccinated for Human Papilloma Virus with Gardasil a product of Merck Pharmaceuticals.

A public debate in the Legislature should have preceded such a drastic move, all ……. careful consideration.

Parents are being told, "We do not expect nor believe that you will stay abstinent until marriage."

The decision to get young girls vaccinated for HPV is not an easy…. In less than a year since approval, 82 cases of serious adverse events following HPV vaccinations of Gardasil have been reported. These incidents should have been discussed thoroughly in open forum in the Legislature before any mandate was even considered.

(http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?PAGENO=1&PERPAGE=10&VAX=HPV4).

Parents need to evaluate all aspects of the HPV vaccine.. there are no long-term studies yet on the way these sixth graders might be affected in future years when [they] have their own babies. Since the vaccine has only followed girls for five years, nobody knows for sure how long the vaccination may last ...

HPV vaccine only covers 4 of 30 types of HPV which account for 70% of cervical cancers and 90% of genital warts. That still leaves 30% of cervical cancers and 10% of genital warts … not covered.

A definite drawback to Gardasil is that girls must get three full doses of the vaccine for it to be effective. How many families are going to understand the urgency of making sure their girls get three full doses over a six months' period of time?

The seriousness of HPV has been one of the driving forces behind the plea for teens to remain abstinent until marriage. Condoms do not offer …

(Excerpt) Read more at collinsreport.net ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: gardasil; hpv; merck; rickperry; texas
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To: Wolfie
It might be a tad easier to just opt out, as is provided for by the law.

Opting out means sending a form to the State, have it returned, and have it notarized, then giving it to the school.

They only 'allow' you to opt out for religious or moral reasons. A simple "No thanks" won't fly.

It's like you have to justify your kid not having something government has no right to force on you in the first place.

"Opting out" just sounds easy.

41 posted on 02/09/2007 12:15:13 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am not an administrative, public, corporate or legal 'person'.....and neither are my children!)
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To: MamaTexan

There shouldn't be a law requiring it at all. But there is. EO's suck. Of course, some people love 'em, depending on the topic at hand. If one truly believes the vaccine is dangerous, then the process shouldn't be much of a hindrance.


42 posted on 02/09/2007 12:19:25 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: ReignOfError
What do you tell a little girl who wants to know why she is being given this injection?
"This will keep you from getting a bad disease. Just like the shots you got for diptheria, whooping cough, polio, measles, mumps and chicken pox when you were little. "

Is it really that freaking complicated? You don't have young girls, that's for sure. What do you say when your little girl asks what part of her gets sick and how that part of her gets sick? In your way of thinking we just follow what the governor tells us to do and give her "that talk". Well suppose I don't think it's time that my little girl gets "that talk". I'm screwed right? Your logic is ridiculous if you think HP is just another disease.
It THAT really THAT freaking complicated? If you want the government running your life, I guess not.
43 posted on 02/09/2007 12:55:34 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (google the "Verses of the Sword" to understand our Islamist enemies.)
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To: dfwgator
Chris Bell praised Goodhair's move. 'Nuff said. Maybe Governor Kinky wouldn't have been such a bad idea, after all.

Your not the only one who now regrets not voting for Kinky!

We were worried he would be a joke and a laughing stock.

Well look what we have got now!
44 posted on 02/09/2007 1:01:39 PM PST by TexanByBirth (Texas Govenor Rick Perry: The Best Aggie Joke Ever!)
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To: Wolfie
But there is. EO's suck.

Perry's EO is illegal, and and illegal act has no force in law.

Why should I have to go through ANY 'process' because he wants to play King of Texas?

45 posted on 02/09/2007 1:13:54 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am not an administrative, public, corporate or legal 'person'.....and neither are my children!)
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To: jmaroneps37
Lots of probing questions are being ask. Anyone believe the left-wing MSM here in Texas is not after RP? However, in this case, he gave them the ammo, gun, and showed them where to aim. RP was stupid for this action.
46 posted on 02/09/2007 1:16:20 PM PST by devane617 (Let's take back our country -- get a job in the MSM, or education system. We need you.)
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To: jmaroneps37

I remember when I was very young; we received polio vaccines at school which I hated; but I don't remember that they were mandated or not.


47 posted on 02/09/2007 1:28:52 PM PST by freekitty
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To: jmaroneps37
What do you tell a little girl who wants to know why she is being given this injection?

That it is to prevent some types of cancer.

How hard is that? And if you simply opt out, you don't even have to do that.

I don't agree with Perry's action on this, but the typical Freeper harping, handwringing, and hysteria over each outrage de jour is ridiculous. Plug-n-play misery, oh how you have been abandoned to wander in the wilderness and die.

48 posted on 02/09/2007 1:34:47 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (Rudy Giuliani-Fred Thompson in '08!)
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To: GulfBreeze

Thanks for the ping. This is blowing up for Perry, but don't count out Merck's lobbyist pulling another card.


49 posted on 02/09/2007 3:33:01 PM PST by YCTHouston
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To: jmaroneps37
What do you say when your little girl asks what part of her gets sick and how that part of her gets sick?

Same as any other disease. If your kid is old enough to ask specific questions about disease transmission vectors, she's probably old enough to know about the birds and the bees.

Well suppose I don't think it's time that my little girl gets "that talk".

"That talk" -- as if it's a one-shot deal -- is part of the problem. Any kid who's old enough to ask the question is old enough for an honest answer. No more information than necessary, and age-appropriate, but honest.

Classic joke: Kid asks Dad, "Daddy, what's sex?" Dad then gives him "The Talk," in detail and three-part harmony. The kid, wide-eyed, looks at Dad, blinks, and after a period of stunned silence says, "okay, but I don't think I can fit all of that in this little blank on the form."

Your logic is ridiculous if you think HP is just another disease.

It is just another disease, though more lethal than most. Your logic is ridiculous if you think that HPV is a judgment, and that the folks who get it somehow deserve it. Or delusional if you believe that probable immunity from the most prevalent forms of HPV will turn every nice little girl into a slutty mattress-back.

I can only imagine the fits of apoplexy you'll go into when and if medical science comes up with an HIV vaccine.

It THAT really THAT freaking complicated? If you want the government running your life, I guess not.

The Texas order has an opt-out option. So opt out. If you're happy with your daughter becoming a victim or a carrier rather than getting a stick in the arm, that is not my call.

50 posted on 02/09/2007 4:49:33 PM PST by ReignOfError (`)
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To: ReignOfError
"This will keep you from getting a bad disease. Just like the shots you got for diptheria, whooping cough, polio, measles, mumps and chicken pox when you were little. " Is it really that freaking complicated?

yeah...it's a little more complicated...first of all it will not prevent all HPV infections, secondly it will prevent the four genotypes of HPV for an unkonw length of time, thirdly it will not prevent 70% of ALL cervical cancers...only those that are caused by the 4 genotypes that are vaccinated for and only in the cases that there is a genetic predisposition for viral caused cervical cancer...

the women will still have to get pap smears in order to detect cervical cancer... so what's the benefit.

Why isn't governor "nice hair" mandating the influenza or pneumovax vaccine which cause exponentially more deaths than cervical cancer..... ???

I mean if this is for disease prevention that causes deaths...then by all means he should line up every person for the pneumovax and influenza vaccine...

he's an asshat and I'm ashamed that he's an aggie...cause he's such a dumba@@....

he's just trying to get lined up for a presidential bid.... I will vote for Hillary before I vote for him....cause at least I know my enemy and won't have some liberal in Rino garb in the whitehouse...

51 posted on 02/09/2007 5:07:33 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: freekitty
I remember when I was very young; we received polio vaccines at school which I hated; but I don't remember that they were mandated or not.>

...you were lucky that you didn't get the first batch of attenuated viral vaccine for polio... read up on what happened to some of the first that got that vaccine...never be the first to get a drug...or the last...

52 posted on 02/09/2007 5:11:08 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: Dick Vomer

To bad that is not something I can check on the states opt out affidavit.


53 posted on 02/09/2007 8:12:39 PM PST by perseid 67 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Once again Gov. Perry's skull confirms the archetectual strength of the dome by showing how it can support a large amount of weight on top (hair & ego) while containing nothing supportive underneath....

...as do the skulls of those who voted for him in the last election.

Perry plans to screw all of Texas...he's just starting with the young girls first...


54 posted on 02/20/2007 9:51:52 AM PST by seeker_two
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To: jmaroneps37

I voted for Perry because I was not given a viable option (Kinky? Grandma?) but I object to this and I think he has made a huge mistake. I am not saying the vaccine is necessarily a bad thing but we needed discussion and we got NONE.


55 posted on 02/20/2007 9:58:10 AM PST by Ditter
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