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Conservatives want more candidates from stage right (i.e. We need Duncan Hunter NOW)
Dalla Morning News ^ | February 1, 2007 | Carl Leubsdorf

Posted on 02/01/2007 10:06:51 AM PST by GulfBreeze

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To: Little Ray
Better President Hillary! and desperate Republican minority trying to generate gridlock than a 'Pubbie who legislates and spends like a Democrat.

And people say we don't let idiots in this party.

41 posted on 02/01/2007 11:20:14 AM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: MittFan08
Look. I am a big Duncan Fan but I TRY to go out of my way to keep everything civil because there is the possibility that the guy I trash is the guy I will be pushing towards the Oval office in November.

But, don't get pissy with me about Hunter's or anyone elses chance of winning. Not while sporting Roaming Romney's name sake on your handle (Is there a single issue this guy HASN'T changed positions on?).

The big three names are now Giuliani, McCain and Gingrich. Romney is not even top tier. He has peaked and is now declining. Enjoy the trip.

Back to the big three. The big three are all 'name saturated'. Which is to say EVERYONE knows who they are. Giuliani and McCain each have ZERO chance of getting anymore support than what they currently have without the other dropping out of the race. Gingrich by hedging his bets with 'maybe I'm running maybe I'm not' has at least left himself and the voters room to grow.

MittFan08... laughable...

42 posted on 02/01/2007 11:20:38 AM PST by GulfBreeze (I Like Duncan Hunter for the GOP Presidential Nomination in 2008)
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To: MittFan08
The Duncan Hunter fan club on this board reminds me of the Russ Feingold or Wesley Clark crushes that many liberals on the internet got. They thought that if they just "spread the word" that the rest of the country would pick up on it.

This coming from an "also-ran" candidate supporter with a screen name of MittFan08 with a sign-up date of Jan 2007.

43 posted on 02/01/2007 11:20:44 AM PST by colorcountry (Remember: Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.)
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To: zbigreddogz
Get a clue.

Do you really think any genuine Reagan conservative would have a prayer of winning a Senate or Governor's seat in modern Kalifornia? I'll not begrudge this man for staying put in the Congress.

Enjoy your RINO candidates, I'm sure they'll do you proud.

44 posted on 02/01/2007 11:21:33 AM PST by AngryJawa ({NRA}{IDPA} GO HUNTER '08)
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To: marron

I agree but I think Hunter has really been on the ball with that approach over the past few weeks. Just wait till he starts registering on the national scene. I think he'll take off but big.


45 posted on 02/01/2007 11:21:57 AM PST by GulfBreeze (I Like Duncan Hunter for the GOP Presidential Nomination in 2008)
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To: GulfBreeze
that doesn't mean there is no GOP aspirant with a record that social conservatives could readily support. Sen. Sam Brownback... Mike Huckabee... James Gilmore... Duncan Hunter of California and Tom Tancredo of Colorado, are also wooing the right. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Among hese candidates, Duncan Hunter is the only one who IS copnservative on his total record, with military experience. He has not had to woo the Roght, he is OF the right. Duncan has not had to " adjust " his message, or lean further to the right, or construct an "image" which shows he is of the right.

The conservative legislative agenda of congress was traduced by the Gang of 14 in the Senate. Simultaneously the DNC , with the help of the RINO Senators of the Gang of 14, engaged in back room politics to get rid of Tom DeLay ( his trial still has not advanced, and they mean to drag it on until after 2008, so that he has no chance of participating in the 2008 presidential race.)

The RINOS and their supporters in the Republican party conducted a coupe, with the help of their Democrat allies. They actually usurped an elected movement of representatives, to stymie conservative republicans.This is hardly democratic, or even republican. Its tyranny of the first water.

Conservative Republicans feel abandoned by the Republican party. The Republican party cannnot possibly win the Republican presidency without the conservative vote. Unless there is a conservative presidential candidate, there will be a repeat of the 2006 debacle in which Republican conservatives stayed home in droves. The Republican party usurped and abandoned the conservative legislative agenda from the House of Representatives. And the Republicans will not be able to trick or terrify Repuiblican conservatives back into the Republican fold without a conservative candidate.

The only truly conservative candidate that has offered so far IS Duncan Hunter. If he or one very much like him who has an established conservative record , with military experience,does not get the nomination, I like many republicans will eiher stay home, vote for a third party, or revenge vote for Hillary.And I have voted straight Republican for the last 4 elections.

This messsage needs to be absorbed by the RNC. The RNC has allowed conservative principles to be abandoned in the party. In abandoning those principels, you have abandoned a third of Republican voters who are irreplaceable.

In doing this , you will have caused the destruction of the Republican party, which will become a simple repository for liberal thought and political action, while the leftist whackos take over the Democrat party.

Conservatives WILL create their own party. They are on their way to doing so now.

46 posted on 02/01/2007 11:22:13 AM PST by Candor7
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To: Antoninus
I understand where you're coming from, but I don't think that playing to the base is going to be a winning formula in '08. In the middle of an unpopular war, and with a president who is more and more a divisive figure, we are not going to win by going more conservative and banging the "Guns, God, and Gays" drum. Americans of all political stripes just aren't going to consider those issues as important as the Iraq War.

Voters are going to be looking for high-profile, moderate, Washington outsiders who can bridge the partisan gap. So far the base has been shouting for more conservative (Hunter!), single-issue (Tancredo!), or just plain silly (Newt!) candidates who aren't going to be able to win given the current look of the political landscape.

Unless there's a dramatic turnaround in Iraq (which we all hope for) and Prez Bush is able to bring the greater portion of our troops home, I think we're going to get our skis waxed come '08.

47 posted on 02/01/2007 11:25:14 AM PST by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Howlin

Dunno. Noticed a lot of 'em lately.


48 posted on 02/01/2007 11:25:36 AM PST by Little Ray
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To: Candor7
Conservatives WILL create their own party. They are on their way to doing so now.

God forbid that it ever comes to this. I pray the GOP isn't stupid enough to let this happen.
49 posted on 02/01/2007 11:25:42 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: zbigreddogz

So you don't consider being an Army Airborne Ranger part of his adult life? You don't consider working your way through college and graduate school part ohis adult life? You don't consider running a private legal practice immediately out of law school part of his adult life?

Do you have a better candidate? Hell no you don't. Scram troll.


50 posted on 02/01/2007 11:26:24 AM PST by GulfBreeze (I Like Duncan Hunter for the GOP Presidential Nomination in 2008)
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To: GulfBreeze
nominees like Ronald Reagan

The notion that "social conservatives" don't do well is put to rest with Ronald Reagan.

Reagan won large because he was socially, fiscally, politically, and patriotically...conservative.

Gary Bauer lost for reasons other than "conservatism." He was a lightweight.

I want to hear from more candidates, and I don't want the media to ANNOINT the next republican candidate.

51 posted on 02/01/2007 11:28:50 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: zbigreddogz
Wow. . . 54 seconds. Impressive.

I like Hunter if for no other reason than to show how conservative the "exciting" three aren't.

I'll still continue to give Hunter $$ AND consider it money well spent.
52 posted on 02/01/2007 11:28:59 AM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: colorcountry

"This coming from an "also-ran" candidate supporter with a screen name of MittFan08 with a sign-up date of Jan 2007."

Romney has raised more money than McCain and Giuliani and has secured a number of nominations from top consevatives, including Sen. DeMint.

Having said that, I'm in this to win- to defeat Hillary. If it looks like Rudy but not Romney is the guy to do that, I will support Rudy. Romney has to start showing some upward movement in his poll numbers, and fairly soon.


53 posted on 02/01/2007 11:31:26 AM PST by MittFan08 (Anybody but McCain)
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To: Zeroisanumber
I understand where you're coming from, but I don't think that playing to the base is going to be a winning formula in '08.

But you can't win without the base. It simply won't happen, particularly if the GOP goes with a liberal and a media-backed 3rd party candidate pops up on the right. That is the recipe for a GOP disaster that will make the losses of 2006 seem like no big deal. That's the trap we're walking into right now by allowing ourselves to be mesmerized by the phony early polling data.

Right now, the base is frustrated with the candidates highlighted as "top tier." If one of those guys gets the nod, expect frustration to morph steadily into rebebellion.

I hope to God it doesn't happen that way, but don't say we weren't warned...
54 posted on 02/01/2007 11:31:37 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: GulfBreeze

Congressman Hunter is THE man!


55 posted on 02/01/2007 11:31:39 AM PST by NRA2BFree (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008! HE IS AN HONEST CONSERVATIVE!!)
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To: All
Time for a helping hand?...:)


56 posted on 02/01/2007 11:33:18 AM PST by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends - basically :) - despite our differences)
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To: GulfBreeze

In every Presidential election, there are plenty of conservative candidates that do run for President every time! There are plenty of conservatives in the Republican, Democratic, and Constitution Parties who do run as well as plenty of conservatives who do run as Independent candidates for President! Most voters don't even know about all of the conservative candidates in total who do end up running for President every time.


57 posted on 02/01/2007 11:33:33 AM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: GulfBreeze
Voted


58 posted on 02/01/2007 11:34:42 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: MittFan08
Having said that, I'm in this to win- to defeat Hillary. If it looks like Rudy but not Romney is the guy to do that, I will support Rudy. Romney has to start showing some upward movement in his poll numbers, and fairly soon.

Neither of these guys has the capacity to electrify the base. To the contrary, if either of them get the nomination, they'll be party-splitters. The press will highlight their liberal track records over and over for exactly that purpose. The very idea of nominating liberals like this as the GOP presidential candidate is madness.
59 posted on 02/01/2007 11:35:16 AM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: GulfBreeze

Duncan Hunter vs. Hillary in the Electoral College:

Duncan : 134 Electoral Votes
Hillary: 404 Electoral Votes



Rudy Giuliani vs. Hillary in the Electoral College:

Rudy : 337 Electoral Votes
Hillary: 201 Electoral Votes


60 posted on 02/01/2007 11:35:24 AM PST by jimbo123
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