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Hymns replaced by Bono lyrics at church
Telegraph (UK) ^ | 29/01/2007 | onathan Petre

Posted on 01/28/2007 8:57:58 PM PST by Mount Athos

John Lennon once enraged Christians by claiming that the Beatles were bigger than Jesus. The Church of England is now recognising the pulling power of rock stars by recruiting Bono, the singer and lyricist of U2, in its bid to boost congregations.

A Church of England bishop is to preside at this country's first "U2-charist", an adapted Holy Communion service that uses the Irish supergroup's best-selling songs in place of hymns.

US worshippers, Hymns replaced by Bono lyrics US worshippers at a U2 Eucharist sing along to lyrics of Bono

In what is more rock concert than Book of Common Prayer, a live band will belt out U2 classics such as Mysterious Ways and Beautiful Day as worshippers sing along with the lyrics, which will appear on screens. The atmosphere will be further enhanced by a sophisticated lighting system that will pulse with the beat, and striking visual images of poverty and drought.

Despite his rock star antics, including swearing on live television, Bono is regarded as a Christian icon by many who point to the spiritual content of his music.

His high-profile anti-poverty campaigns with fellow Irish musician Bob Geldof have elevated him to saintly status in some circles.

But while Bono is open about his Christian influences, he has also clashed with Church leaders over issues such as Aids.

Traditionalists who fear the Church is diluting its message to attract the young will be dismayed at its willingness to embrace Bono.

Such doubts are not shared by the Bishop of Grantham, the Rt Rev Timothy Ellis, who is organising the U2-charist in St Swithin's church in Lincoln in May.

"Bono and Bob Geldof are very human, but they have demonstrated that they believe there is sanctity to life that has to be protected," he said. "If that makes them saints, then I would go along with that."

Bishop Ellis said that the eve-of-Pentecost service in the city centre church would be a traditional one, but stripped down to basics.

"We are hoping the service will be a fresh way to look at worship, less formal, and less rigid," he said.

"People will be able to express themselves in any way they wish.

"This is not designed to replace traditional services but to enhance the worship provision of the Church.

"We need to try new expressions. If we don't try to update and refresh our thinking we will die."

Seating will be moved so that the 500-strong congregation can dance or wave their arms.

The bishop, who will be chief celebrant, said he had yet to decide whether to swap vestments for jeans.

The Lincoln U2-charist is adapted from an American phenomenon that has swept across the US and even reached Hong Kong.

It will be recorded by the BBC for a programme to be broadcast later in the year, and the bishop hopes it will be replicated across Britain.

The service will focus on the Millennium Development Goals to reduce world poverty, a cause close to Bono's heart.

The Bishop said that he did not expect the Irish singer to attend the U2-charist in person, though he was hoping he might send a message. The £10,000 cost of equipment will be partly funded by the diocese of Lincoln, and the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, will also be kept informed.

The idea was devised by the Rev Paige Blair, an American Episcopal priest in York Harbor, Maine, who held the first service in 2005. Since then, she has advised about 150 churches on U2 Eucharists in 15 states and seven countries.

"Bach and Handel were the popular music of their day, and they had trouble getting played in church," she has said.

"The Methodist hymn writers once wrote contemporary music. Are we worshipping Bono? Absolutely not. No more so than we worship Martin Luther when we sing A Mighty Fortress Is Our God."

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Extracted lyrics of songs used in American U2-charists, compiled by the Rev Paige Blair in York Harbor, Maine

When Love Comes To Town I was there when they crucified my Lord, I held the scabbard when the soldier drew his sword, I threw the dice when they pierced his side, But I've seen love conquer the great divide

Mysterious Ways It's alright, it's alright, it's alright, She moves in mysterious ways, It's alright, it's alright, it's alright, We move through miracle days, Spirit moves in mysterious ways

Elevation Explain all these controls, Can't sing but I've got soul, The goal is elevation, A mole, Digging in a hole, Digging up my soul now, Going down, excavation


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anglican; blasphemy; churchoftheleft; ecusa; gramsci; liberalagenda; sacrilege
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To: reagan_fanatic
Yes lyrics added to New Testament

Christ, though tempted, "can see all good people turn their heads each day, and, so satisfied, He continues on His way."

81 posted on 01/29/2007 12:40:19 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Paved Paradise

There was a time when pop artists weren't afraid to express a faith in God. Remember "Turn! Turn! Turn!" by the Byrds, "Jesus is Just Alright With Me" by the Doobie Brothers, "Do Right" by Paul Davis, "One Tin Soldier" by Coven, "put Your Hand In The Hand" By Ocean...the list goes on.

These days, not only have the majority of artist kicked God out of their repitoire, but many flaunt their disdain for Christianity like Madonna.

So there's this supergroup named U2 which was founded upon and often sings about the importance of faith in a higher power and even mentions God by name in several of their songs. A rarity these days - but no less a welcome one.

Wouldn't you rather the youth of today connect with the message of U2 songs than Motley Crue or Ozzy or Ludacris? Or have you just given up on them unless they sing Catholic Creeds or Baptist standards in black robes?

If Elvis's gospel days float your boat, more power to ya!

But don't begrudge this next generation the sound they need to connect with God. The message is what's important. Cut them some slack.


82 posted on 01/29/2007 12:42:26 PM PST by TruthHound
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To: TruthHound
"We're a FourSquare church with *gasp* drums, electric guitars and everything. :-0

Don't knock it 'til you've tried it. We're connecting people with God."

That's cool, so long as the Gospel and the songs are not watered down in order to be less offensive.

God is awesome, and he is to be both loved and feared!

Many do not know how to do both.

Incidentally, I have played my electric guitar at church about 20 times in the last year, and most of my songs are contemporary, as well.
83 posted on 01/29/2007 12:50:29 PM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: Paved Paradise
One of the reasons the African-American churches are so much fun. They've got spirit and aren't afraid to show it.

I also believe dancing in church (or at home) for the Lord is awesome, but some do it for show, simply to look "spiritual".

Matthew 15:7-9 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
Public Domain

7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,

8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
84 posted on 01/29/2007 12:57:54 PM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: NC28203

Now if it were the DOORS' Gloria - that would be a different tune! ;)


85 posted on 01/29/2007 12:58:09 PM PST by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: TruthHound

You sound like the Church Lady! "the music is of SATAN!'

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Excuse me? I said, "It's annoying and most definitely not uplifting." I certainly did not imply that there is anything sinful about it. Get a grip! Just because I am not inspired by this tripe is no reason for you to claim that I said something I did not.

I personally enjoy many genres of music from Mozart to zydeco, but I don't want your "amplified praise and worship", as you call it, in my liturgy.


86 posted on 01/29/2007 2:13:20 PM PST by Bigg Red (You are either with us or with the terrorists.)
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To: TruthHound

You're posting to the wrong person. I don't have a beef with this music.


87 posted on 01/29/2007 4:06:00 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Borges; All
What do you have against Depp?

Perhaps the words he has spoken has something to do with my feelings about Johnny Depp, who continue to bites the hand who feeds him. Below are a few of his quotes. Quite the patriot, isn't he?

"France, and the whole of Europe have a great culture and an amazing history. Most important thing though is that people there know how to live! In America they've forgotten all about it. I'm afraid that the American culture is a disaster."

In response to George W. Bush's administration for its criticism of French opposition to the U.S.-led war in Iraq, "I was ecstatic they re-named 'French Fries' as 'Freedom Fries'. Grown men and women in positions of power in the U.S. government showing themselves as idiots."

"America is dumb, it's like a dumb puppy that has big teeth that can bite and hurt you, aggressive."

"My daughter is four, my boy is one. I'd like them to see America as a toy, a broken toy. Investigate it a little, check it out, get this feeling and then get out."

88 posted on 01/29/2007 4:14:50 PM PST by LisaMalia (God Bless our Troops and President Bush)
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To: Mount Athos

I've got no problem with it. Myself, I'd rather hear Johnny Cash songs in Church, or better yet, Social Distortion songs.... ;^)

Just because somebody worships different than you, it doesn't make them less of a Christian....I think alot of stuff along these lines was covered in the Book of Acts....


89 posted on 01/29/2007 4:18:48 PM PST by machman
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To: LisaMalia
Depp later said he was quoted out of context, loves America and that he simply lives in France because his wife and kids are French. As for his other statement, judging by current American pop culture (Jackass, American Idol) I think one can say 'Sad but true'. Most American popular culture is terrible.
90 posted on 01/29/2007 7:42:29 PM PST by Borges
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91 posted on 01/29/2007 8:00:27 PM PST by Huber (And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:5)
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To: Mount Athos

Bono is the head of the New World Order "ONE Campaign", which is designed to get laypeople involved in the UN "Millennium Development Goals", which the heretic Katharine Jefferts-Schori is using to replace the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Making a Bono "U2-charist"[yikes!] is therefore highly inappropriate, since it condones KJS' heresy!!!!


92 posted on 01/29/2007 8:22:03 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: alicewonders
Trying to go down the middle of the road

A fine tune from 1973: "Dead skunk in the middle of the road, stinkin' to high heaven."

About sums it up, I'd say.

93 posted on 01/29/2007 8:53:57 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Mount Athos
I might have been shocked at this if there hadn't been a church that uses the music of John Coltrane in San Francisco for years.


94 posted on 01/29/2007 9:08:09 PM PST by L.N. Smithee (We're all two heartbeats away from President Nancy Pelosi. Sleep tight, America!)
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To: TruthHound
The Episcopal church I used to attend in NYC is/was doing this U2charist thing.

Thankfully, the new one I attend isn't. That's probably why the other one is the church I *used* to attend.

95 posted on 01/30/2007 4:07:48 AM PST by kellynch ("Our only freedom is the freedom to discipline ourselves." -- Bernard Baruch)
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To: Paved Paradise; Obie Wan
I'm with you. When I was singing in a praise and worship team at church, we actually (gasp) sang the words of "Amazing Grace" to the tune of the Eagles' "Peaceful Easy Feeling."

The Blind Boys from Alabama sing it to the tune of "House of the Rising Sun". It's on what I think is their first CD.

I am in an Anglo-Catholic Episcopal parish. I'm in the choir; I sing tenor. We sing praise songs, gospel songs, Bach chorales, Palestrina, Tallis, and anything else with the Message. If U2's songs have lyrics consistent with the Gospel, then I think it's fine. But they shouldn't be used just because they are popular.

96 posted on 01/30/2007 12:03:46 PM PST by RonF
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To: RonF

Your last two sentences sum up what I believe entirely.


97 posted on 01/30/2007 3:04:11 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Borges
Depp later said he was quoted out of context, loves America and that he simply lives in France because his wife and kids are French. As for his other statement, judging by current American pop culture (Jackass, American Idol) I think one can say 'Sad but true'. Most American popular culture is terrible.

Out of context? Maybe you should re-read my post #88. And this thread is not about American pop culture.

98 posted on 01/30/2007 4:54:49 PM PST by LisaMalia (God Bless our Troops and President Bush)
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To: LisaMalia

I was responding to your quote not to the content of the article in the thread. Depp's 'puppy' comment came up here a while back and was clarified and discredited by Depp himself.


99 posted on 01/30/2007 8:28:06 PM PST by Borges
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